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Title: Valuing Companies with Negative Earnings


1
Valuing Companies with Negative Earnings
  • Many start-ups have losses or very small profits
    for the initial years due to high marketing or
    RD expenses.
  • These companies grow at very high rates.
  • Successful companies may increase sales by 100
    times in the first few years.
  • Multiples Valuations P/E ratios are absurd if
    there is no earnings to value.
  • Using values of these ratios 3 or 5 years out
    does not capture the fact that growth will
    continue for possibly 10 or 15 years.

2
Valuing Companies with Negative Earnings
  • Two approaches to valuation
  • Change the Accounting
  • Work Backwards
  • Accounting Standards require that RD is expensed
    immediately however, firms benefit from RD for
    many years to come
  • Capitalize RD similar to how capital
    expenditures (purchases of fixed assets) are
    capitalized
  • Determine the FCF at stabilization and work
    backwards to get a stream of FCF to value

3
Changing the Accounting
  • Currently RD is expensed immediately
  • Each year Net Income is reduced by 100 of RD
  • Amgen 1998 Net Income 644.3 and RD 630.8.
  • Each year Retained Earnings is reduced by 100 of
    RD
  • Amgen 1998 No Dividend so RE reduced same as
    above.
  • If RD was capitalized (assuming 10 year
    amortization).
  • Income is reduced by 1/10 of this years RD as
    well as 1/10 of the RD of every year for the
    last 10 years.
  • This is similar to how capital expenditures
    (changes in fixed assets) are capitalized through
    depreciation.
  • Book Equity would increase by the amount of
    unamortized RD, i.e. there would be an
    intangible asset on the books.

4
Capitalizing RD
  • If you Capitalize RD,
  • Income increase in the early years and decreases
    in the later years
  • Investing activities increase (still spend the )
  • FCF is unchanged
  • Book Equity increases.
  • So, Capitalizing RD will change the equity and
    book value but not the FCF.

5
Use DCF
  • The DCF method to valuing an assets is almost
    always the best alternative.
  • The problem is that for some firms there is no CF
    to D
  • Solution
  • Start at a point in the future when the firm has
    CF

6
Valuing the no CF firm
  • Consider Amazon
  • In four years, Amazon has built an over 10
    million customer base and expanded its offerings.
  • Amazon has invested heavily in its brand-name and
    most people are familiar with the name
  • The firm has a high market capitalization
  • Currently 9.127 billion
  • About a year ago it was 25 billion
  • However, the firm has turned little if any profit
  • Amazon lies at the heart of the debate of how to
    value internet and start-up firms.

7
Start from the Future
  • Trying to determine how a firm is going to go
    from negative profit and cash flow to a FCF high
    enough to justify its market capitalization is
    perplexing
  • Solution Approach the problem from another
    angle
  • Think about the firm and its industry When do
    you think it will likely begin to stabilize.
  • For the internet companies this will likely be 10
    or 15 years from now since this is a very new
    industry

8
Amazon the next Walmart?
  • Assume (optimistically) that Amazon continues to
    be the market leader and takes a significant
    percentage of the book and music market share.
  • If the company takes 13-12 of the market share
    by 2010, it would have revenues of about 60
    billion.
  • The average operating margin (operating cashflow
    / sales) in this industry is about 11.
  • So the optimistic scenario may be that Amazon
    has
  • 60 billion in revenues
  • 7 billion in profit
  • Growth will be 15 for 15 years after 2010 and
    stabilize at 5.5
  • This results in a value of 38 billion (discount
    rate of 15)

9
Scenario Analysis
  • The previous analysis is not a credible forecast
    but a description of what could happen in a best
    case scenario.
  • We should also forecast a likely and worst case
    scenario
  • Likely 8-10 of the market share - 41 billion
    in revenue, 8 margin resulting in a value of
    19 billion
  • Worst Case 5 6 of the market share - 17
    billion in revenue, 7 margin resulting in a
    value of 7 billion

10
Scenario Analysis
  • There is much uncertainty with this type of
    analysis and we need to account for that
    uncertainty by weighting the ultimate value by
    its probability of occurring.
  • Best Case Value 38 billion and probability
    30
  • Likely Case Value 19 billion and probability
    40
  • Worst Case Value 7 billion and probability
    30
  • Expected Value 21 billion
  • Scenario Analysis if very helpful in this type of
    valuation because we are estimating far into the
    future which increases the uncertainty
  • Note Each scenario pertains to what Amazon will
    become. We are fairly certain of the growth in
    2010 and beyond. However, if we were not, we
    could alter that as well.

11
Impact of changing Expectations
  • Changes to our probabilities results in dramatic
    changes in values.
  • If you weight the worst case 70, the likely case
    20 and the best case 10 to reflect the recent
    downturn, the value drops to 12.5 billion

12
From Probability to Reality
  • The last step is to determine how Amazon is going
    to go from a negative earnings and cash flow firm
    to one that may earn as much as 60 billion with
    a 7 billion operating profit.
  • For internet companies, customer value analysis
    is useful
  • Five factors driving customer value analysis
  • Average revenue per customer
  • Total number of customers
  • Cost of getting new customers
  • Contribution Margin per customer operating
    profit per customer
  • Customer churn rate proportion of customers
    lost each year.

13
From Probability to Reality
  • You should compare these numbers now to what they
    must be to get each scenario.
  • To get from negative cash flow to 60 billion
    dollars, each of these numbers must be strong and
    improving over time.
  • Amazon must continue to build its new customer
    base without losing old customers.
  • It must increase the sales to each customer while
    keeping profits down.

14
Risk and Uncertainty
  • It is possible that Amazon will realize the best
    case scenario and its value will be 39 billion.
  • If this is the case, it will appear that the
    market underestimated Amazons ability. This is
    not necessarily true. The market simply factored
    in uncertainty
  • As we are seeing recently, not all of the
    internet companies will make it.
  • After the invention of the automobile, the US
    market was flooded with auto manufacturers.
    Today, only 3 are left.
  • WSJ online now has a link to layoffs and
    shutdowns by dot.coms. To date, 96 firms have
    had major layoffs or shutdown.

15
Amazon Stock Price for one year
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