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Title: Torque Converter Friction


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Torque Converter Friction
  • IT ALL BEGINS WITH A KISS

Presented by Frank Slocum VP, Marketing
Sales Raybestos Powertrain, LLC
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  • We are going to discuss today six subjects areas
  • What happens in that transitional phase of piston
    travel from 0.001 to 0.000. I call it the
    Kiss Phase.
  • We are going to discuss how lock-up works.

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  • How the different friction materials do their
    jobs.
  • How the different fluids behave.
  • 5. Intermixed with continuous slip and the other
    factors.
  • 6. Finally, we will cover some assembly
    considerations, along with surface finishes.

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  • Imagination
  • Get inside of your Converter
  • Creative License to Describe
  • What is Happening
  • The World According to Frank

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  • Imagine you are inside of your torque converter
  • The solenoid closed, the TC valve has
  • shuttled, flow has reversed, and charge pressure
    is building on the backside of the piston, moving
    it forward, closer and closer to the to the
    carefully machined cover.

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  • A whole lot is going on as the fluid, under 60psi
    charge pressure, is trying to squeeze around the
    edge of the piston, across the face of the
    friction, trying to go to low pressure.
  • The cover, attached to the engine, is rotating
    faster than the piston, which is mounted on the
    driven turbine.

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  • The oil, which was once appearing very fluid and
    slippery, is now starting to create drag as the
    friction material nears the cover.
  • The relative speed between the piston and cover
    begin to slow.
  • Right now the thickness of your note paper
  • is fat compared to the oil film thickness.

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  • Still millions and millions of oil molecules are
    slicing across the friction face.
  • Relative torque is rising as the pistons
    relative speed slows, and
  • the torsional springs begin to compress as the
    individual cylinders fire.
  • The stator is now freewheeling as the converter
    enters the coupled mode.

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  • Torque is now being transmitted by the converter
    as a coupling, and by the rising torque of
    molecular oil drag across the friction face
  • We are now entering into the KISS Phase - the
    point where everything changes, and the
    uniqueness of an oil film comes into play.

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  • Lets take mental shift here and ask the
    question, How thick is an oil film?
  • A thousandth of an inch?
  • A half thousandth?
  • A hundredth of a thousandth
  • And so on.

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  • Actually, an oil film is one molecule thick.
  • Let me put that in perspective.

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  • Ever see a puddle with a single drop of oil
    flashing the rainbow of colors?

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  • That is an oil film one molecule thick.
  • And when it gets to that thickness it behaves
    entirely different than you can even imagine.
  • It behaves like a solid.
  • And its thickness is measured in angstroms,
    inches to the umteen decimals .

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  • Lets go back into imagination again.
  • The piston continues to move closer and closer,
    and there is relative movement between the cover
    and friction material.
  • We are now less than a quarter of a thousandth of
    an inch, and the oil is squirting like a knifedge
    all around the interface, going every which way.

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  • A little more imagination here
  • Think of oil molecules being like spaghetti right
    out of the boiling water, and millions of them
    are in every droplet.

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  • Slipping and sliding one over the other,
    unanchored, moving about trying to get someplace
    another molecule is not.
  • Rubbing, one against the other.

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  • And that rubbing causes friction, one on another,
    and in this highly excited state, the temperature
    starts to rapidly rise.
  • Up, and up, goes the temperature, and the
    unrelenting apply force continues to close the
    interface between friction and cover.
  • Individual oil molecules see hundreds of degrees
    of temperature rise that dissipate
  • as the oil reaches the backside of the piston.

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  • The combined interface is now seeing temperatures
    in the hundreds of degrees
  • with the unrelenting, violent, slicing oil film,
    accelerating across the interface.
  • Half again, and half again, the interface closes.

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  • The spaghetti molecules squirm to escape the
    ever closer friction and steel.
  • When suddenly a dramatic change begins to take
    place
  • The beginning of an exponential rise in torque
    begins, two becomes four, four becomes sixteen,
    then 256, 65536, and on.

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  • As individual oil molecules stand up and resist
    the relative movement, individually resisting and
    then releasing as they loose grip, their
    directional orientation has changed and instead
    of squirting away, they are standing and
    resisting.
  • We are now in the KISS phase.

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  • Here, the interface is approaching the one
    molecule thickness between the parts.
  • Most would say they are in contact, but they are
    not, and in fact the molecules themselves are
    drawing the interfaces together, as if in an
    embrace.

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  • We are now moving from the Hydrodynamic phase
    into the boundary level lubrication where the oil
    film is reduced to a minimum.
  • The additives are now shearing as they realign.

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  • We are now in lock-up.
  • Interface temperatures go down as the heat
    transfers into the steel.
  • Limited oil quantity flows between the friction
    fibers from high charge pressure to low drain
    pressure.
  • And the robust resistance to slippage is holding.

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  • Phew, we got through that didnt we.
  • I will now ask your imaginative indulgence again

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  • Think of running your hand across a bristle
    brush.
  • You feel the stiffness of each bristle as it
    holds and then suddenly releases.
  • And resets its resistance.

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  • If there were enough, you couldnt move your
    hand the only choice you have is to reduce
    pressure, allowing your hand to move.
  • That is static friction and the friction during
    movement is dynamic friction.

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  • There are two types of simple friction
  • Dynamic or moving
  • Static or holding
  • They are expressed as a ratio, and usually near
    11.
  • The term used is Friction coefficient and
    dynamic is usually between 0.10 to 0.14
  • Static is between 0.08 and 0.16

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  • From a Goodness or smooth operating point of
    view
  • The closer the ratios are to each other and 11
    the better.
  • When static is higher than dynamic, we could see
    Stick-slip or chatter.

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  • The oil used and calibration are the keys.
  • The computer controls calibration
  • You control the oil
  • Ford Mercron for Ford
  • GM Dexron For GM
  • Chrysler for Chrysler
  • Honda for Honda

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  • The standard Raybestos tan clutch is a good match
    for the standard OEM materials.
  • Upgraded materials are a good choice for
    durability and life.

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  • Lets talk about two aspects that we look for in
    friction materials
  • Compliance
  • Resilience

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  • Compliance is the ability to comply with minor
    variations between the interacting surfaces in
    rotation.

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  • Resilience is the ability to return to the
    original dimensions and shape after being
    compressed.
  • A sponge is a simple example. Squeeze it it
    compresses, release and it resumes its original
    shape.

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  • Our interface is three parts, the friction, the
    oil, and the steel.
  • The steel surface is just as important as the
    friction.
  • For maximum contact, the material must comply
    with small imperfections in the cover.

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  • Ever heard You cant get a steel plate too
    smooth.?
  • Id like for a reaction surface to be Ra 8 or
    better with no scratches.
  • Id like flatness to be 0.003 or better in the
    friction and reaction surface.
  • Both are very hard to do.

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  • So if we are in the Kiss phase, and we have
    high compliance parts,
  • And we have a very smooth reaction steel surface,
    we will maximize our torque capacity.
  • We are going to get a very smooth transition to
    one-to-one.

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  • Once we get to this point, we can look to extend
    engagement time or continuous slip.

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  • When we continuously slip or extend the
    engagement time, we
  • See a dramatic increase in interface temperature.
  • See a requirement for higher strength materials .

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  • Because we are Working the oil, we see a
    surface temperature of over 600 F.
  • This can scorch and burn organic materials
  • Scorch conventional resins
  • Breakdown the oil and fill the oil channels with
    varnish
  • Drive the dynamic torque down
  • Dramatically lower static friction

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  • Fact Static coefficient directly relates to
    temperature.
  • Static friction falls in relation to higher
    temperature at almost a 1F to 1 basis.
  • Therefore, it is advantageous to keep converter
    charge oil temperature under control.
  • Charge oil is transmission sump oil.

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  • Because of the scorching, we move away from
    traditional organic cellulose materials and move
    to more sophisticated fibers.
  • Glass and aramid fibers, such as Kevlar
  • are blended into the friction material.
  • High temperature resins are used.
  • Higher strength resins are used.

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  • Generally, the dynamic friction goes down
  • because the resilience goes down
  • The friction ring is densified, made more
    compact, and the component materials are of lower
    friction.
  • Tradeoffs are the way it is done.

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  • Lets talk about resilience for a few minutes.
  • Can we define it as the ability to return to its
    original form?
  • A resistance to change.

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  • Think of a regular coil spring, like an
    accumulator spring.
  • You can cycle that spring millions of times in a
    certain range and have no ill effect.
  • But if you go to far, over compress it,
    compact it to a solid, it will only last so long.

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  • In a spring, it breaks into pieces.
  • In a torque converter, the material develops
    cracks, they join together and pieces flake.
  • The cause is excessive clamp force, aggravated by
    thermal stress.
  • The solution is to upgrade the material
  • or add more friction surfaces.

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  • One other disintegration mode has to be addressed
    - Erosion.
  • The hot compressed oil jets that exist at the
    interface will also erode or abrade the material.
  • The cause is insufficient material strength, the
    resin, at temperature, cant hold the fibers
    together.

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  • Unfortunately, this debris is very fine and
  • flows through the cooler out line to become
    trapped in the heat exchanger.
  • Which reduces flow, raises temperature in the
    converter and the vehicle is on its way to
    failure.

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  • So how much heat does this interface develop?
  • Enough to discolor a converter cover!!
  • That is why we need carbon rings.
  • The spun wound SW Carbon ring is 100
    carbon-carbon continuous fiber, held in position
    by resin and bond adhesive .

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  • The friction is low for carbon fiber because it
    is slippery by nature, and because it is a very
    compacted wafer.
  • It is not resilient, so the dynamic is low.
  • It is temperature resistant and uses the cover as
    a big heat sink to carry off energy.
  • But mostly, it doesnt generate heat at the oil
    interface.

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  • A fun question for a moment
  • If all the fibers in a single Raybestos
    Spun-Wound torque ring were laid end to end,
    into a single fiber, how long would it be?
  • How many feet long?
  • Guess and write it down.

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  • Ready for the answer??

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  • Ready for the answer??
  • It is over 121,000 feet -- roughly 23 miles.

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  • How much torque can an automotive lock- up system
    transmit?
  • It is a good question that needs answering.

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  • It is about 460 lb-ft of torque (298MM, 125 psi
    charge).
  • Not a lot, is it?? And if we continue to force
    slip it, we will burn it out.
  • Changing material to a higher static material
    increases holding torque capacity.
  • To further increase capacity, we need to add
    friction surfaces, multiple clutches.

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  • So where we see these diesel trucks with a
    multiple disc package, that is what they are
    trying to do, add capacity.
  • But if you dont have the steel heat sink, the
    plates will warp, you will loose compliance and
    surface contact, static friction will go down,
    slip will increase,
  • temperature goes up, converter fails.

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  • So what can you do as rebuilders?
  • Select your friction material carefully.
  • Match your friction to the intended duty cycle.
  • Exercise care when bonding, and insist on a
    contamination free surface.
  • Tack check your adhesive to insure freshness.

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  • Make sure the interface surface is smooth and
    flat.
  • Consider the amount of piston movement and
    material thickness.
  • Axially align your converter from pilot to hub.
  • Tack, then finish weld.

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  • When finished, put about ½ pint of transmission
    oil in the converter as a rust preventative and
    break in oil.
  • Take pride in your good work.

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  • So lets review what we have covered
  • We have seen the transitional phase.
  • We have discussed lock up.
  • We have touched on friction materials.
  • We have discussed fluids.
  • And reassembly considerations.

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  • Now lets cover questions.
  • What we cant answer, we will try to get the
    answer from our Tech Center.
  • And remember, It all begins with a kiss

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  • Thanks for spending your time with us.
  • Enjoy Indianapolis.
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