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1
PROPOSITION
Today, Friday Oct 28th
The Scriptures teach that baptism, to the
penitent believer, is for the remission of sins.
Affirm Douglas W. Hill
Deny Roger Holland
2
Of Terms In The Proposition
DEFINITIONS
The Scriptures The 66 books of the Bible, Both
Old New Testaments (2 Tim.316f).
Teach To impart knowledge, to instruct.
Baptism Immersion in water in Christs name
(Rom. 63 Acts 1047-48).
Penitent Believer One who believes in Jesus
Christ as the Son of God (Jn 824) has
repented of past sins (Acts 238).
For In order to obtain (Mt. 2628 Acts 238).
Remission of Sins The forgiveness of past
(alien) sins (2 Pet. 19).
3
OPPONENT'S PROPOSITION
Affirm Roger Holland
The Scriptures teach that one is saved
before and without water baptism.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith
without works is dead? (James 220).
4
OPPONENT'S PROPOSITION
Affirm Roger Holland
The Scriptures teach that one is saved
before and without water baptism.
Was not Abraham our father justified by works,
when he had offered Isaac his son upon
the altar? (James 221)
5
What Is NOT In Dispute
WHO SAVES
God (1 Tim. 23).
Christ (2 Tim. 110).
Holy Spirit (Titus 35).
We BOTH Agree On WHO Saves!
6
What Is NOT In Dispute
WHAT SAVES
Grace (Eph. 28-9).
Mercy (Titus 35).
Blood (Matt. 2628 Rom. 58-9).
Love (John 316).
Word of God (Js.121 Rom.116).
Faith (Eph. 28-9).
We BOTH Agree On WHAT Saves!
7
What Is NOT In Dispute
That These Do NOT Save
Water (1 Pet. 321).
Meritorious Works / Works of Men (Titus 35
Rom. 323 Is. 646).
Works of Law of Moses (Rom. 217 319-20
Gal. 214ff).
Works of Satan / Flesh (Gal. 519ff).
We BOTH Agree On This!
8
What I Do NOT Mean
Baptism alone will save.
The power is in the water.
The blood is in the water.
What I Mean
Water baptism is a
CONDITION for salvation like
Dipping was a condition for Naamans cleansing
(2 Kings 5).
Looking at the brass serpent was a condition
for the healing (Num. 21).
9
WATER SALVATION?
Naaman dipped seven times in the Jordan was
cleansed (2 Kings 51-5).
Blind man washed in the pool of Siloam returned
seeing (John 91-12).
BRASS SALVATION?
People looked lived (Num. 214-9).
These were OBEDIENCE OF FAITH in God, not in the
power of earthly items!
10
What IS In Dispute
WHEN SAVED?
At The Point Of Faith (Jas. 214-24)?
At The Point Of OBEDIENT Faith Baptism (Rom.
63f, 16-18)?
We DISAGREE On WHEN One
Becomes Saved!
Opponent Takes SOME passages What about the
rest (Acts 2026-27)?
11
SALVATION UNDER WHICH WILL?
BEFORE AFTER
DEATH OF THE TESTATOR
He must still prove that sinners today are saved
under the New Testament without baptism!
Even if opponent proves these were saved without
baptism,
Heb. 916-17
12
QUESTIONS For Mr. Holland
1. Name one Scripture that places New Testament
salvation before water baptism.
__________________
  1. Who IS saved in Mark 1616? __________________
    _

13
QUESTIONS For Mr. Holland
3. When does one put on Christ (i.e. enter
Christ, contact His blood)? ___________________
4. What kind of faith saves? A
living? A dead faith?
14
QUESTIONS For Mr. Holland
5. Is baptism in the name of Christ a work of
Law of Moses (Gal.216 Rom.3 116).
The Devil (1 John 38).
The Flesh (Gal. 519).
Darkness (Eph. 511).
Men (Titus 35 Eph. 29).
God (Mt. 2125, Lk. 730 Jn. 326-27
Jn 629 Col. 211-13).
Will Opponent Tell Us?
15
FAITH
Defined
Pistuo Strongs 4100 used especially of
the faith by which a man embraces Jesus, i.e.
conviction, full of joyful trust, that Jesus is
the Messiah the divinely appointed author of
eternal salvation in the kingdom of
God, conjoined with obedience to Christ
(Thayer p. 511).
16
FAITH
Defined
John 316 explained by v. 14-15!
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the
wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted
up 15 That whosoever believeth in him should
not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so
loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not
perish, but have everlasting life.
17
FAITH
Defined
John 316 explained by v. 14-15!
8 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery
serpent, and set it upon a standard and it shall
come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when
he seeth it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a
serpent of brass, and set it upon the standard
and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten
any man, when he looked unto the serpent of
brass, he lived. (Num. 214-9)
18
FAITH
Defined
James 214-26
v. 14 can that faith save him? v. 17 faith,
if it have not works, is dead in itself. v. 20
faith apart from works is barren v. 21 Was
not Abraham our father justified by works, in
that he offered up Isaac (Work of Devil? Men?
Law? Faith?) v. 22 faith wrought with his
works, and by works was faith made perfect
19
FAITH
Defined
James 214-26
v. 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which
saith, And Abraham believed God, and it was
reckoned unto him for righteousness v. 24
Ye see that by works a man is justified, and
not only by faith. v. 26 For as the body apart
from the spirit is dead, even so faith apart
from works is dead.
20
What Kind Of Faith?
Felix believed (Acts 2425).
Demons believe (Jas. 219)!
Many rulers believed (Jn 1242).
Agrippa believed (Acts 2627-29).
Many Jews believed (Jn. 831,39-40).
These Believe! Were They Saved? Are ALL
Believers Saved? If Not, Why Not?
21
What Kind Of Faith?
OBEDIENT Faith Saves!
1. Baptized Called Believers (Acts
241) (Acts 244)
2. Baptized Having believed (Acts
1633) (Acts 1634)
3. Told to believe Were baptized on
Him in His name (Acts 194) (Acts 195)
Saved Believers Baptized Believers
22
Which Quote Is Accurate?
MARK 1616
A. He that believeth and IS baptized shall be
saved?
B. He that believeth and is NOT baptized shall
be saved?
1 PETER 321
A. Baptism doeth also NOW save you?
B. Baptism doeth also NOT save you?
23
Which Quote Is Accurate?
Acts 238
A. Repent and be baptized for the remission
of sins?
B. Repent, but baptism is NOT for the remission
of sins?
Acts 2216
A. Arise, be baptized and WASH AWAY THY SINS?
B. Arise, be baptized for thy sins are ALREADY
washed away?
24
Mark 1615-16
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the
world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Already Shall Be
Saved Saved
He that believeth and is baptized shall be
saved
but he that disbelieveth shall be
condemned.
25
PARALLELS - MARK 1616
He that believes and sticks out his hand shall
receive 20 He that believes not shall be poor.
He that eats and digests shall live He that
eats not shall die.
He that believes and is baptized shall receive
1 million he that believes not shall be poor.
He that believes and attends shall be fed, He
that believes not shall be hungry.
26
Necessary Conclusion
AUTHORITY
The baptism of John, whence was it? from
heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with
themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven
he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe
him? (Matt. 2125)
But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the
counsel of God against themselves, being not
baptized of him. (Luke 730)
To Reject Johns Baptism Was To Reject Gods
Counsel!
27
Necessary Conclusion
AUTHORITY
26 And they came unto John, and said unto him,
Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to
whom thou barest witness, behold, the same
baptizeth, and all men come to him. 27 John
answered and said, A man can receive nothing,
except it be given him from heaven. (John
326-27)
To Reject Christs Baptism Is To Reject Gods
Counsel!
28
The Force Of A Positive Command
AUTHORITY
POSITIVE NEGATIVE
Acts 1631 BELIEVE Do we
Acts 1730 REPENT need a
Mk. 1616 BAPTISM negative?
To SUBTRACT from Gods word is a SIN! (Deut. 42
Ezk. 310 Rev. 2218-19)
When God gives a POSITIVE command will my
opponent accept it?
29
WHO WILL BE CONDEMNED?
2 Thess. 18-10
8 rendering vengeance to them that know not
God, and to them that obey not the gospel of our
Lord Jesus 9 who shall suffer punishment, even
eternal destruction from the face of the Lord
and from the glory of his might, 10 when he
shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to
be marvelled at in all them that believed
HERE IS YOUR NEGATIVE STATEMENT!
30
EXCEPT...
Ye believe shall die (John 824).
Ye repent shall perish (Luke 133).
Ye be born again not enter into the
kingdom of God (John 33, 5).
Here is your negative statement about baptism!
I wonder if my opponent will accept it?
31
1 Peter 122-25
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying
the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love
of the brethren, see that ye love one another
with a pure heart fervently 23 Being born
again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth
and abideth for ever. 24 For all flesh is as
grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of
grass. The grass withereth, and the flower
thereof falleth away 25 But the word of the
Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word
which by the gospel is preached unto you.
32
1 Peter 321
20. Which sometime were disobedient, when once
the longsuffering of God waited in the days of
Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few,
that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth
also now save us (not the putting away of the
filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good
conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of
Jesus Christ
33
1 Peter 512
By Silvanus, our faithful brother, as I account
him, I have written unto you briefly, exhorting,
and testifying that this is the true grace of
God. Stand ye fast therein.
34
Who Believes In Christ?
He that believeth and is baptized shall be
saved (Mark 1616).
He that believeth and is saved shall be
baptized (Opponent).
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words,
hath one that judgeth him the word that I have
spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
(John 1248)
35
John 117
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and
truth came by Jesus Christ.
Baptism into Christ for the remission of sins is
not revealed in the Old Law.
Therefore, baptism is grace and truth! (Eph.
28 John 832) 
God Calls Baptism Grace Truth!
Opponent Rejects God's Grace Truth!
36
Acts 236-38
36. Therefore let all the house of Israel know
assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus,
whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37. Now when they heard this, they were pricked
in their heart, and said Men and brethren, what
shall we do?
38. Repent, and be baptized every one of you in
the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins
37
Matt. 2826
for this is my blood of the covenant, which is
poured out for many unto remission of sins.
Which One?
In order to obtain? because of?
eis
(Exact same phrase in Acts 238!)
38
Rom. 43
Abraham believed God, and it was counted
unto him for righteousness.
Which One?
In order to obtain? because of?
eis
(Acts 238 Mt. 2628)
39
MY OPPONENTS VERSION!
What Kind Of Faith? NOT Obedient!
God said go (Gen.121).
Abram God, you know I believe, so I am
already there!
God said offer Isaac (Gen.222).
Abram But God, you know I dont need to do
anything! Offering wont save me!
Is This The FAITH Of Abram?
40
The Of Abraham
FAITH
He Was Justified By Faith(Rom.43).
What Kind Of Faith? OBEDIENT!
Law of faith (Rom. 327).
Father of all them that believe... that
righteousness might be reckoned unto them
Father to those who also walk in the steps of
that faith of our father Abraham which he had in
uncircumcision. (412 2 Cor.57).
41
Acts 238 (64 Translations)
19 say for the remission of sins (Authorized
version (KJV) Berrys interlinear Centenary
Translation Douay Emphatic Diaglot
Englishmans Greek NT Ferrar Fenton Geneva
Bible Haweis (1795 AD) Moffatt H.B. Montgomery
(1924) New American Standard New King James
Version Syriac Version Verkuyl (Burkeley
Version) Wesleys Translation Weymouth Darbys
Translation) 16 say for the forgiveness of your
sins (Amplified NT Authentic by Schomfield
Challomer Rheims Jerusalem Bible Living Bible
New Catholic Version New English Bible New
International version Revised Standard Version
Twentieth Century Translation English Standard
Version Bible In Basic English World English
Bible Luois Segond Verision 1910 SRV, SRVA) 1
says for (in order to, unto) the forgiveness
(First German Bible) 1 says for a release of
your sins (Modern English) 1 says for the
purpose of remission of your sins (Spanish
Translation) 5 say unto the remission of your
sins (American Bible Union Version Engl.
Revised Moultons Modern Readers Rothermham
Warrells Trans.)
42
Acts 238 (64 Translations)
  • 1 says into the remission of youre synnes
    (Wycliffe - 1308)
  • 2 say into the remission of sins (Emphasized
    version Italian Translation)
  • 1 says into the forgiveness of your sins
    (Everlasting Gospel by McCord)
  • 1 says to have your sins forgiven (Knox)
  • 2 say to the remission of sins (Youngs Literal
    Translation MKJV)
  • 2 say with a view to the remission of sins
    (Modern Speech Weymouths N.T.)
  • 1 says so that you may have your sins forgiven
    (Phillips Modern English)
  • 1 says so that your sins may be forgiven (Simple
    English)
  • 1 says that your sins may be forgiven (Williams)
  • 4 say In order to the remission of your sins
    (Anderson Indian Translation Living Oracles
    Macknights Translation)
  • 1 says in order to obtain the remission of sins
    (French Translation)
  • 2 say (for, unto) in order to forgiveness of sins
    (German Translation Hacketts commentary)
  • 2 say in order to have your sins forgiven (Good
    News for Modern man Goodspeed)

FOR, INTO, UNTO, IN ORDER TO PURPOSE
43
Acts 2216
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be
baptized, and wash
away thy sins, calling on his name.
Baptism is WHEN sins are washed away!
But WHAT washes them away (1 Pet. 321)? Jesus
Christ washed us from our sins in his own
blood (Rev. 15)!
Baptism is HOW we call on His name (Lk. 646
Mt. 721 Col. 317 Eph. 121)!
44
BIBLE ORDER
1. Arise 2. Be Baptized 3. Wash
Away Thy Sins 4. Calling On The Name
HOW IS IT WRITTEN IN ACTS 2216?
OPPONENT'S ORDER
1. Call On The Name 2. Wash Away Thy
Sins 3. Be Baptized 4. Arise
45
Romans 63-7
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were
baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into
his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by
baptism into death that like as Christ was
raised up from the dead by the glory of the
Father, even so we also should walk in newness
of life. 5 For if we have been planted together
in the likeness of his death, we shall be also
in the likeness of his resurrection 6 Knowing
this, that our old man is crucified with him,
that the body of sin might be destroyed, that
henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he
that is dead is freed from sin.
46
Romans 617-18
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield
yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye
are to whom ye obey whether of sin unto death,
or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God
be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin,
but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of
doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then
made free from sin, ye became the servants of
righteousness.
47
What Changes What?
C H A N G E S
FAITH
HEART (Ro.109)
REPENTANCE
LIFESTYLE (Ro. 24-5)
CONFESSION
ALLEGIANCE (Ro.109)
BAPTISM
RELATIONSHIP (Ro. 63ff, 17-18)
48
Who Do You Bury (Baptize)?
(Rom. 63-4, 9 Col. 211-13)
Jesus Was Raised From The Dead
Jesus Died
Was Buried
We Are Dead In Sin
We Are Raised To Walk In Newness Of Life
We Are Buried With Him By Baptism
49
Who Do You Bury (Baptize)?
(Rom. 63-4, 9 Col. 211-13)
BIBLE TEACHING
DEAD
NEW LIFE
BAPTIST TEACHING
YOU BURY THE LIVING! Spiritual Murder!
NEW LIFE
50
Romans 1013-17
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of
the Lord shall be saved. 14. How then shall they
call on him in whom they have not believed? and
how shall they believe in him of whom they have
not heard? and how shall they hear without a
preacher? 16. But they have not all obeyed the
gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath
believed our report? 17. So then faith cometh
by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 
51
Calling On The Name Of The Lord?
Whosoever calls - saved (Acts 221)!
Thus, what is in His name?
Baptism for rem. of sin (Acts 238)!
Baptism rejoicing (816 835f)!
Baptism whereby saved (10481114)!
Baptism to be saved (1630-33)!
Baptism life (185-6, 8)!
Baptism sins removed calling on the name of
the Lord (2216)!
Why Call, If Not Do? (Lk. 646 Mt. 721)!
52
Gal. 326-27
  • For ye are all the children of God by faith in
    Christ Jesus.
  • 27. For as many of you as have been baptized
    into Christ have put on Christ.

Strongs 1063. gar properly, assigning a
reason explanation
53
Ephesians 28-10
8. For by grace are ye saved through faith and
that not of yourselves it is the gift of
God 9. Not of works, lest any man should
boast. 10. For we are his workmanship, created
in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath
before ordained that we should walk in them.
54
"By Grace Through Faith"
(Ephesians 28-9 Acts 19)
THE EPHESIANS Heard the Gospel (Acts 195 Eph.
113). Believed the Gospel (Ephesians 113).
Repented of their Sins (Acts 2021). Confessed
Christ (Acts 1918). Were Baptized (Acts 195).
AFTER this, Paul writes them a letter saying,by
grace are ye saved, through faith!
55
"BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH"?
The Walls Of Jericho (Josh. 6)
  • Now Jericho was straitly shut up
  • Lord I have given into thine hand Jericho
  • 3 And ye shall go round about the city once.
    Thus shalt thou do six days.
  • 4 and the seventh day ye shall compass the
    city seven times, and the priests shall blow
    with the trumpets.
  • 5 And it shall come to pass, that when they
    make a long blast with the ram's horn the wall
    of the city shall fall down flat...

56
"BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH"!
The Walls Of Jericho (Josh. 6)
GRACE I have given (Josh.62).
WHEN DID THEY TAKE THE CITY? First Day? Second
Day? Third Day? Etc.?
NO!
FAITH By faith the walls of Jericho fell down,
after they had been compassed about for seven
days. (Heb.1130).
57
"BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH"!
The Walls Of Jericho (Josh. 6)
My Opponent Would Accuse Joshua Israel Of
Trusting In Their Works!
And it came to pass at the seventh time, when
the priests blew with the trumpets, Joshua said
unto the people, Shout for the LORD hath given
you the city. (Josh. 616)
58
"BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH"?
Naaman Cleansed Of Leprosy (2 Kings 5)
10 Elisha sent messenger Go and wash in Jordan
seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to
thee, and thou shalt be clean. 11 But Naaman
was wroth, and went away, and said, Behold, I
thought, He will surely come out to me, and
stand, and call on the name of the LORD his
God, and strike his hand over the place, and
recover the leper. 12 Are not Abana and Pharpar,
rivers of Damascus, better than all the waters
of Israel? may I not wash in them, and be clean?
So he turned and went away in a rage.
59
"BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH"?
Naaman Cleansed Of Leprosy (2 Kings 5)
13 And his servants came near, and spake unto
him, and said, My father, if the prophet had bid
thee do some great thing, wouldest thou not have
done it? how much rather then, when he saith to
thee, Wash, and be clean? 14 Then went he down,
and dipped himself seven times in Jordan,
according to the saying of the man of God and
his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a
little child, and he was clean. 15 and he said,
Behold, now I know that there is no God in all
the earth, but in Israel
60
"BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH"!
Naaman Cleansed Of Leprosy (2 Kings 5)
My Opponent Would Accuse Naaman Of Trusting In
His Works The Water!
After cleansed and he said, Behold, now I know
that there is no God in all the earth, but in
Israel (2 Kings 215).
61
"BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH"!
Are All Works Excluded?
Gal. 216 ...not by the works Titus 35 Not
by works Eph 29 Not of works
But in every nation he that feareth him, and
worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
(Acts 1035) Jesus answered and said unto them,
This is the work of God, that ye believe on him
whom he hath sent. (John 629)
62
WHAT KIND OF WORKS?
Works of men (Eph. 29)? NO!
Works of the Devil (1 Jn. 38)? NO!
Works of Old Law (Ro.327-29)? NO!
Works of God (Col. 212)? YES!
Work of God (John 627-29).
Law of faith (Rom 327).
Law of the Spirit (Rom. 82).
Obedience of the gospel (Rom. 15).
Obedience to the truth (1Pt.122).
63
WHEN Are We Saved?
(Col.211-13)
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the
circumcision made without hands, in putting off
the body of the sins of the flesh by the
circumcision of Christ 12 Buried with him in
baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him
through the faith of the operation of God, who
hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you,
being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision
of your flesh, hath he quickened together with
him, having forgiven you all trespasses (KJV)
64
BAPTISM SALVATION
Six passages expressly tell us that salvation
comes when with baptism Mark 1616 Acts
238 Romans 63-4 Acts 2216 I Peter 321
Col. 211-13 Name ONE Scripture which places
N.T. salvation BEFORE WITHOUT baptism!!
65
BAPTISM SALVATION
Other passages illustrate that salvation comes at
the point of baptism Acts 1630-34 Philippian
Jailer Acts 185-6, 8 Corinthians Name ONE
Scripture which places N.T. salvation BEFORE
WITHOUT baptism!!
66
BAPTISM SALVATION
And still more necessarily imply that salvation
is at the point of baptism Acts 816 (221)
Phillip in Samaria Acts 835-39 Ethiopian
Eunuch Acts 1114 (1047-48) Cornelius Acts 195
(221 Eph. 28-9) Ephesians Gal. 326-27
Galatians Name ONE Scripture which places N.T.
salvation BEFORE WITHOUT baptism!!
67
"What God Hath Joined, Let
Not Man Put Asunder" (Mt. 196)
BAPTISM and
Salvation (Mk. 1616).
Enter the Kingdom (John 33, 5).
Rem. Of Sins (Acts 238).
Gift of H. Spirit (Acts 238).
Contact His Death/Blood (Rom. 63).
New Life (Rom. 63-4).
Putting on Christ (Rom. 64 Gal. 326f).
Freedom from Sin (Rom. 616-18).
Being a child of God (Gal. 326-27).
68
"What God Hath Joined, Let
Not Man Put Asunder" (Mt. 196)
BAPTISM and
Words whereby saved (Ax 1114 1048).
Name of the Lord (Ax 1043,48 221,38).
When sins washed away (Acts 2216).
Putting off the body of sins (Col. 211f).
Good conscience (1 Pet. 321).
The one body (1 Cor. 1213).
Sanctification cleansing (Eph. 526).
Regeneration Renewing (Ti. 35).
Access (Heb. 1022).
69
"EVERY SPIRITUAL BLESSING"
(Ephesians 13)
Salvation (2 Tim. 210) Redemption (Rom.
324) Forgiveness (Col. 114) Reconciliation (2
Cor. 519) Promises (2 Cor. 120) Inheritance (Ep
h. 111) Eternal Life (1 Jn 59-12)
BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST (Rom. 63-4 Gal. 326-27)
IN CHRIST
OUTSIDE CHRIST
70
1 Peter 321
but the answer of a good conscience toward God,
by the resurrection of Jesus Christ (KJV)
Strongs 1906 from 1905 an inquiry--answer.
but the interrogation of a good conscience
toward God (ASV) but as an appeal to God for a
clear conscience (RSV) but the question of a
good conscience in regard to God (YLT)
Strongs 1905 is from 1909 and 2065 to ask for,
i.e. inquire, seek--ask (after, questions),
demand, desire, question.
But the answer of a good conscience toward God.
The word here rendered answer means properly a
question, an inquiry. (Albert Barnes' NT
Commentary)
71
I Corinthians 111-13
11. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my
brethren, by them which are of the house of
Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12. Now this I say, that every one of
you saith, I am of Paul and I of Apollos and
I of Cephas and I of Christ.
13. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for
you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
72
I Corinthians 114-17
14. I thank God that I baptized none of you,
but Crispus and Gaius 15 Lest any should say
that I had baptized in mine own name. 16 And I
baptized also the household of Stephanas
besides, I know not whether I baptized any
other. 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but
to preach the gospel
(See also Jn. 41-3 Acts 188!)
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Romans 623
FREE GIFT
If my opponent admits faith is a condition
THEN conditions do NOT negate a free gift of
grace!
A FREE GIFT MUST STILL BE RECEIVED!
Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It
was necessary that the word of God should first
have been spoken to you but seeing ye put it
from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of
everlasting life, lo, we turn to the
Gentiles. (Acts 1346)
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I knew I was saved because I felt it in my
heart before baptism (Oct. 27, 2005)
Opponent
Says
So belief cometh of hearing, and hearing by the
word of Christ. (Rom. 1017)
And hereby we know that we know him, if we keep
his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and
keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the
truth is not in him (1 John 23-4)
ye have obeyed from the heart that form of
doctrine being then made free from sin (Rom.
617-18 Cf. Acts 835-39)
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THINGS HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD
2 Peter 315-16
  1. And (Mark 1616)
  2. Into (Rom. 63 Gal. 327)
  3. Then (Rom. 618)
  4. Now (1 Pet. 321)
  5. Wash Away (Acts 2216)
  6. Wherein (Col. 212)

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of
these things in which are some things hard to be
understood, which they that are unlearned and
unstable wrest, as they do also the other
scriptures, unto their own destruction. (2 Pet.
316)
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Mark 1615-16
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the
world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Already Shall Be
Saved Saved
He that believeth and is baptized shall be
saved
but he that disbelieveth shall be
condemned.
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