Title: RAVEing mad! Dissecting our Galaxy
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3RAVEing mad!
Dissecting our Galaxy
- A new view of the Universe VIII
- Fred Watson (and the RAVErs)
- April 2005
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5More geography of the Milky Way Galaxy
RAVEing mad!
6Galaxies
- NGC 2997 a near-twin of the Milky Way
7Edge-on view of a spiral galaxy Disc Bulge Thick
disc
8The Galaxys halo of dark matter, old stars and
globular clusters
9And lurking at the centre of our Galaxy
10What is RAVE?
RAVEing mad!
(And why are we RAVEing?)
11What is RAVE?
RAdial Velocity Experiment International
collaboration22 scientists in 11 nations PI
Matthias Steinmetz, AIP All-sky survey of stellar
radial velocities ages Ultimate aim 50 million
stars, complete to I15 Enables true galactic
archaeology Spawned from (now-defunct) space
missions UK Schmidt Telescope and a northern
counterpart Completely externally funded (A, ,
, US, ?) Public data-base VO compliant
12Science goals
Comparison with simulations of structure-growthwi
thin a CDM Universe (Steinmetz Navarro,
2002) Substructure in the halo (cold stellar
streams) Chemical signatures (?/Fe, Fe/H) to
identifycommon formation sites among
widely-separated stars Formation of bulges Origin
of the thick disk Dynamical state of the thin
disk and neighbouring spiral arms
13Science goals...
www.aip.de/RAVE/
14The galactic halo is thought to be made up of
swarms of stars.
They come from satellite galaxies gobbled up in
the past by the Milky Way.
We can detect them by plotting their positions in
phase space.
15More galactic archaeology Results from the
Geneva-Copenhagen survey of 14,000 Sun-like stars
in the local neighbourhood. And this is just the
start
16Multi-object spectroscopy with fibre optics
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18More RAVEing
Phase I April 2003June 2005, using unallocated
UKST bright-of-moon time during the 6dF Galaxy
Survey, funded by AAO and RAVE. About 100,000
stars with 9ltIlt12. Observe in the far red region
of the spectrum. Currently measuring 700 stars
per clear night. Phase II 200610, all UKST time
once the Galaxy Survey is complete. Goal is to
measure 30,000,000 stars with Ilt15. But need to
measure 22,000 stars per night.
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Instruments for RAVEing
20Phase I instrumentation 6dF robot
Cute, isnt it?
21Yours might be cutebut mines bigger
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236dF on the UK Schmidt Telescope
- 6-deg field-of-view pick-place fibre system
- Off-telescope robot
- Two field plate units
- 1507 science fibres
- Fixed spectrograph
- Turn-round 20 min
- Reconfig. time 60m
- Up to 8 fields/night
- Commissioned 2001
- OzPoz prototype
246dF field-plate unit
25Back of field-plate unit
266dF fibre buttons parked on field plate
27Robot at work
28Phase II instrumentation
- 6dF is too slow for 22,000 stars per night...
- Therefore adapt the 400-fibre positioner
currently being developed by AAO for Subaru
Echidna Ball-Spine Array
29Found in Space
30Prototype spines
Spine B (3 of 3 made)
Spine A (1 of 3 made)
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32Echidna for RAVE
- 2250 spines (each with 15 arcmin patrol area)
- Covers full field area of 6 ? 6 deg2
- 1 minute reconfiguration time
- Feeds spectrograph with 3?750 banks of spectra
- AAO estimates positioner will cost 2.4M
- AIP builds the spectrograph _at_ 0.8M ?
- How might it be funded...?
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34What about the north?
- UKST can only access the southern 2/3 of the
sky. - Therefore RAVE needs a northern-hemisphere
counterpart. - Favoured candidate is the 0.8-m Schmidt at Calar
Alto, Spain. - It would need its own Ukidna and spectrograph.
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RAVEs Progress
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38First data-release July 2005 on Edinburgh
data-server.
39RAVE spectrum?
A vs.
A vs.
A vs. US
A vs.
40RAVEs future
RAVEing mad!
41The Way Forward
On 30.6.2005 the AAT Board ceases to support UKST
operationsUkidna cannot be ready before 2007if
ever Current proposal is to extend Phase I for gt2
years. RAVE uses all UKST time (up to 25 nights
per month). Annual cost to RAVE 250k
visiting observers. Collect gt400,000
spectrabuying time for Phase II... ORprovide a
useful sample with which to end the survey But
the hope and intention is to RAVE on...
42The end
RAVEing mad!