Title: Plato
1Platos RepublicEditions and Documentation
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2_librivox1 for recordings. - Listen to the recording at least once.
2A Prologue to the whole book
- Book I is a prologue. As it introduces the
reader to the characters of the dialogue, it
establishes the basic questions of the Republic
What is justice, and why should someone prefer to
be just rather than unjust? Most important, it
acquaints us with both the person and the method
of the philosopher Socrates. - Prologue
- 1. a preliminary discourse a preface or
introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel.
- 2. an introductory speech, often in verse,
calling attention to the theme of a play. - Prologue vs. epilogue prelude vs. coda in music
3Prologue vs. Epiloguesynonyms vs. antonymsa
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- Prologue--a preliminary discourse a preface or
introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel
an introductory speech, often in verse, calling
attention to the theme of a play. - Highlight the word prologue and right click to
see synonyms!
- Epilogue--1. a concluding part added to a
literary work, as a novel. - 2. a speech, usually in verse, delivered by one
of the actors after the conclusion of a play.
4The Setting
- The setting is the Piraeus, the port of Athens,
somewhere around 410. - A. The Piraeus was a stronghold of the democratic
opposition to Tyranny. - B. The setting already suggests a major issue of
the dialogue Is democracy worth fighting for,
even dying for? - C. Because it is a seaport, the Piraeus is filled
with foreigners. It thus raises a second basic
question Is diversity a desirable quality of a
city?
5The first dialogue is between Socrates and
Cephalus (328d-331d)page 4 in the course reader
- A. Cephalus warmly greets Socrates.
- B. Socrates responds (rather rudely) by asking
him what it is like to be old and near death. He
also asks him what is the best thing about being
rich. - C. Cephalus says he does not mind being old. The
erotic madness of youth has passed. - D. Cephalus is not afraid of death, because he
has always told the truth and paid back his
debts. - E. From these casual remarks, Socrates extracts a
definition of justice from Cephalus. It is, he
says, telling the truth and giving back what a
man has taken from another (331c). - F. Socrates then refutes this definition of
justice with a counter-example. If you borrowed a
knife from a friend and the friend became insane,
it would not be just to return the knife to him
or to tell him the truth. (Socrates pushes the
limit here) - G. The key question that emerges is What is
justice itself? This will be seen to be a very
difficult question to answer.
6Socrates as a GadflyEthos of his community
- perhaps the most historically accurate of
Socrates' offenses to the city was his position
as a social and moral critic. Rather than
upholding a status quo and accepting the
development of what he perceived as immorality
within his region, Socrates questioned the
collective notion of "might makes right" that he
felt was common in Greece during this period.
Plato refers to Socrates as the "gadfly" of the
state (as the gadfly stings the horse into
action, so Socrates stung various Athenians),
insofar as he irritated some people with
considerations of justice and the pursuit of
goodness. His attempts to improve the Athenians'
sense of justice may have been the source of his
execution. - Greece was in trouble internalwith Sparta
(Civil War) externalwith Persians (against
outside invasion)
7Socrates and Polemarchus
- The second dialogue is between Socrates and
Polemarchus (331d-336a). - A. Polemarchus rescues his father from Socratess
refutation. - B. Cephalus leaves (with a smile on his face) to
perform some religious rituals He is not a
philosopher. - C. Polemarchus proposes that it is just to give
back what is owed, which he then amends to give
to everyone what is fitting (332b). Socrates
refutes this definition.
8Thrasymachus RelativismWhats problem with
relativism?
- The central debate of Book I takes place between
Socrates and Thrasymachus, who is a Sophist.
Thrasymachus teaches rhetoric, and he is a
relativist. His definition of justice is the
advantage of the stronger (338c), by which he
means justice is determined by the ruling body.
For example, in a monarchy, what is advantageous
to a king would be counted as just. In a
democracy, whose name literally means rule by
the people, what is advantageous to the majority
is just. - There is no absolute, universal, or objective
definition of justice. What is counted as just
varies from regime to regime.
9Sophist
- 1. ( often initial capital letter ) Greek History
. - a. any of a class of professional teachers in
ancient Greece who gave instruction in various
fields, as in general culture, rhetoric,
politics, or disputation. - b. a person belonging to this class at a later
period who, while professing to teach skill in
reasoning, concerned himself with ingenuity and
specious effectiveness rather than soundness of
argument. - 2. a person who reasons adroitly and speciously
rather than soundly.
10Relativism
- noun
- Philosophy . any theory holding that criteria of
judgment are relative, varying with individuals
and their environments.
11Tyranny of the MajorityJohn Stuart Mill
- The phrase "tyranny of the majority" originates
with Alexis de Tocqueville in his Democracy in
America, where it is the name of an entire
section (1835, 1840) and was further popularized
by John Stuart Mill, who cites de Tocqueville, in
On Liberty (1859).
12A straw man
- A straw man is a component of an argument and is
an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of
an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man"
is to create the illusion of having refuted a
proposition by replacing it with a superficially
similar yet un-equivalent proposition (the "straw
man"), and refuting it, without ever having
actually refuted the original position.
13Thrasymachus definition of justice
- Thrasymachus, a Sophist, enters the scene. He
defines justice as the advantage of the
stronger (338c). - A. Justice is whatever is advantageous to the
ruler. - B. In a democracy, justice is whatever is
advantageous to the people. - C. There is no absolute definition of justice it
is relative to the regime. - D. Rhetoric is often defined as the art of
persuasion and goes hand in hand with relativism.
14Socrates Refutation
- Socrates refutes Thrasymachus (339a340a). His
first argument against the Sophist is the
following - A. Thrasymachus believes that it is just to obey
all laws. - B. He agrees that sometimes rulers make mistakes.
- C. A mistaken law is one that is not advantageous
to the ruler. - D. Because Thrasymachus has agreed that it is
just to obey all the laws, he is committed to
saying that it is sometimes just to obey laws
that are disadvantageous to the ruler. - E. Thrasymachus has contradicted himself Justice
both is and is not advantageous to the ruler.
15Cleitophons Revision
- Cleitophon offers his assistance Justice, he
proposes, is what the stronger believes to be
his advantage (340b). a more subjective view - This is a significant revision of Thrasymachuss
position, because it eliminates the possibility
of making mistakes. Cleitophon is a radical
relativist. - Thrasymachus rejects Cleitophons suggestion
because he thinks the ruler is like a craftsman
(340e) who has real knowledge. (The Greek word
for craft is technê, which can also be
translated as art.)
16Socrates presents a second refutation of
Thrasymachus
- Socrates presents a second refutation of
Thrasymachus (341c342e). - A. The ruler is like a craftsman. He has a
technê, a craft or an art. - B. All craftsmen are directed toward and seek the
advantage of the object of their craft. - 1. The doctor cares for the sick.
- 2. The pilot cares for the sailors.
- 3. Therefore, all craftsmen are naturally
directed toward seeking and providing for the
advantage (341d) of the object of their technê,
not themselves!
17Injustice is superior to justice
- Thrasymachus changes his position Injustice is
superior to justice. It is more powerful than
justice. Being unjust is the way to bring
advantage to oneself. (See 344c.) - A. This a radical challenge to the goodness of
justice. - B. It raises a fundamental question Why be just
when, if you are unjust, you can benefit
yourself? What is the value of justice?
18The third refutation of Thrasymachus
- Socrates presents a third refutation of
Thrasymachus (345e346e). - A. Ruling is like a craft or an art (technê).
- B. Craftsmen receive wages for their work.
- C. This implies that their work is not simply for
their own advantage they demand wages in order
to be rewarded for their work. No art generates
its own advantage. (See 346e.) - D. Rulers receive wages.
- E. Therefore, ruling benefits those who are
ruled, not the rulers.
19Hint on your summaryhttp//www.archive.org/detail
s/platos_republic_0902_librivox1 for recording
- At the Narrative Level Use the Six Ws to
contextualize the text and to orient yourselves. - The first half of page 1 offers such information
as the themes of the dialogue, and participants.
- Write your summary here
20Contextual Information
- When Book I opens, Socrates is returning home
from a religious festival with his young friend
Glaucon, one of Platos brothers. - Ironic situation
- A torch-race on horseback in honor of the
goddess - Why is it a novelty?
- Whats so dangerous?
21Got Waylaid (page 1)by force (of the stronger)
- On the road, Socrates and his companions are
waylaid by Adeimantus, another brother of Plato,
and the young nobleman Polemarchus, who convinces
them to take a detour to his house. - There they join Polemarchuss aging father
Cephalus, and others. Socrates and the elderly
man begin a discussion on the merits of old age.
This discussion quickly turns to the subject of
justice. - And are you stronger than all these? for if not,
you will have to remain where you are (Course
Reader 1). Playful but heavy-handed.
22Conversation Journey (2)Reason by analogy
- the more the pleasures of the body fade away,
the greater to me is the pleasure and charm of
conversation. - I replied There is nothing which for my part I
like better, Cephalus, than conversing with aged
men for I regard them as travelers who have gone
a journey which I too may have to go, and of whom
I ought to enquire, whether the way is smooth and
easy, or rugged and difficult (2).
23Metaphor (page 2)
- Men of my age flock together we are birds of a
feather. (the subject/the predicate) - The curtain of night fell on somewhere.
- Midnight ?? is a novel written by Mao Dun
published in 1933. The title refers to the
political situation in China, the darkest moment
in history.
24Patrimony (page 3)
- noun, plural -nies.
- 1. an estate inherited from one's father or
ancestors. - 2. any quality, characteristic, etc., that is
inherited heritage. - 3. the aggregate of one's property.
- 4. the estate or endowment of a church, religious
house, etc.
25Reason by analogy
- the makers of fortunes have a second love of
money as a creation of their own, resembling the
affection of authors for their own poems, or of
parents for their children, besides that natural
love of it for the sake of use and profit which
is common to them and all men (3).
26Old age, wealth, reflectionsuch topics lead to
justice
- when a man thinks himself to be near death,
fears and cares enter into his mind which he
never had before the tales of a world below and
the punishment which is exacted there of deeds
done here were once a laughing matter to him, but
now he is tormented with the thought that they
may be true either from the weakness of age, or
because he is now drawing nearer to that other
place, he has a clearer view of these things
suspicions and alarms crowd thickly upon him, and
he begins to reflect and consider what wrongs he
has done to others (3).
27What is justice? (4)Restorative Justice
- Simonides (a minor Greek poet) Speak the truth
and pay your debt - Justice is to return what is due
- Socrates challenge Justice is more than just
return what is due.
28Cephalus vs. SocratesContradict by shifting to
another contextor extending to another scenario
- Cephalus, a rich, well-respected elder of the
city, and host to the group, is the first to
offer a definition of justice. Cephalus acts as
spokesman for the Greek tradition. His definition
of justice is an attempt to articulate the basic
Hesiodic conception that justice means living up
to your legal obligations and being honest. - Socrates defeats this formulation with a
counterexample returning a weapon to a madman,
better yet, to a murderer!. You owe the madman
his weapon in some sense if it belongs to him
legally, and yet this would be an unjust act,
since it would jeopardize the lives of others. So
it cannot be the case that justice is nothing
more than honoring legal obligations and being
honest.
29Socrates shifted a conceptReason vs. Fallacy
- To return what you own to someone
- This falls into restorative justice
- To return a weapon to a murderer is a different
situation - Socrates did not offer the scenario how we got
this weapon from the murderer in the first place.
After the murder, the murderer is no longer
entitled to his weapon. The law will override
his ownership of the weapon.
30Justice is to do good to a friend, evil to an
enemy. (page 5)
- Says Polemarchus quoting Si?monides, 556?468?
b.c., Greek poet justice is the art that gives
good to a friend, evil to an enemy. (challenge
this definition) - Reason by analogy
- Physician/pilot/
31Greek Traditional View of Justice
- Traditionally, the Greek conception of justice
came from poets like Hesiod, who in Works and
Days presents justice as a certain set of acts
that must be followed. The reason for being just,
as presented by the traditional view, was
consideration of reward and punishment Zeus
rewards those who are good and punishes those who
are bad.
32Should we harm our enemies?What if we are on the
wrong side of history?
- Socrates reveals many inconsistencies in this
view. He points out that, because our judgment
concerning friends and enemies is fallible, this
credo will lead us to harm the good and help the
bad. We are not always friends with the most
virtuous individuals, nor are our enemies always
the scum of society. Socrates points out that
there is something incoherent in the idea of
harming someone (even if our enemy) through
justice.
33If we are ignorant of human nature, can we tell
who are our friends and who are our enemies?
- But see the consequence --Many a man who is
ignorant of human nature has friends who are bad
friends, and in that case he ought to do harm to
them and he has good enemies whom he ought to
benefit (8). - Stiff application (paralysis in James Joyces
words) of the rule that we should do good to our
friends and do harm to our enemies could be
consequential.
34http//www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searchExodus
21versionNIVin the Old Testament
- New International Version eye for eye, tooth for
tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for
burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise (Exodus
21). - King James Version Eye for eye, tooth for tooth,
hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for
burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
35How to react to violence?How to right a wrong?
- What is the logical consequence if responding to
violence with violence? - Two wrongs wont make it right.
- Review Jesus teaching in the New Testament
- 38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye
for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth 39 But I
say unto you, That ye resist not evil but
whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek,
turn to him the other also. (Mathew 5)
36Justice (utilitarian view 6-7)
- Socrates You think that justice may be of use in
peace as well as in war? - Is justice something that is useful? If it is, it
is useful always for something else. Then the
definition is shifted to something external. - Justice has its criteria, independent of
utilities. - Autonomous vs. heteronomous
- Heteronomy the condition of being under the
domination of an outside authority, either human
or divine. - Autonomy freedom, independence, free of external
influences, out of your own free will, your own
choice
37By shifting terms,Socrates led us to such a
definition
- Now justice seems an art of theft! (7)
- By adding words, by shifting contexts
- Look for inconsistencies and contradictions
38Real vs. seemingreal vs. appearance
- Plato talks so much on the distinction between
the real and appearance. This has something to
do with his insistence on seeking the truth.
- Seeming in appearance but not necessarily in
actuality with seemingly effortless ease
39Allusion to Homer (7)
- Au?tolycus, the maternal father of Odysseus.
Classical Mythology a thief, the son of Hermes
and Chione, and the grandfather of Odysseus. He
possessed the power of changing the shape of
whatever he stole and of making it and himself
invisible as if he wore a magic ring.
40Utilitarianism is a form of ConsequentialismShoul
d we Do the right things in the wrong way?
- Justice is an art of theft to be used for the
good of friends and for the harm of enemies. (7) - Meaning is determined by consequences.
- Deng Xiaoping (1904 1997) It doesnt matter
whether it is a white cat or a black cat as long
as it catches rats, it is a good cat. - It doesnt matter how rats are caught.
- British--Taking over Hong Kong as a result of the
first Opium War in 1939. - Does it matter if the means by which a goal is
accomplished is not ethical?
41Intentionalism
- Irony
- A surgeon wanted to save a patient but the
patient died on the operation table - Unintended consequences
- Premeditated murder is the crime of wrongfully
causing the death of another human being (also
known as murder) after rationally considering the
timing or method of doing so, in order to either
increase the likelihood of success, or to evade
detection or apprehension.
42Sillybillies (page 9)a name for someone,
especially a child, who is behaving in a silly way
- Silly Billy was a type of clown common at fairs
in England during the 19th century. They were
also common in London as a street entertainer,
along with the similar clown Billy Barlow. The
act included playing the part of a fool or idiot,
impersonating a child and singing comic songs. - The name is popular because of its nice rhyme and
was used as a generic nickname for foolish
people, especially those named William such as
Prince William Frederick and King William IV.
43Making ConcessionsRhetorical Function
- Polemarchus and I may have been guilty of a
little mistake in the argument, but I can assure
you that the error was not intentional (9). - Granted however
- It is true that however
- Make a little turn, as a little creek is trying
to gather more water so that later it will rush
forward with greater momentum
44Interdict 10
- noun
- 1. Civil Law . any prohibitory act or decree of a
court or an administrative officer. - 2. Roman Catholic Church . a punishment by
which the faithful, remaining in communion with
the church, are forbidden certain sacraments and
prohibited from participation in certain sacred
acts. - 3. Roman Law . a general or special order of the
Roman praetor forbidding or commanding an act,
especially in cases involving disputed
possession. - verb (used with object)
- 4. to forbid prohibit.
- 5. Ecclesiastical . to cut off authoritatively
from certain ecclesiastical functions and
privileges. - 6. to impede by steady bombardment Constant air
attacks interdicted the enemy's advance.
45Thrasymachus definition of justice (11)
- Listen, then, he said I proclaim that justice is
nothing else than the interest of the stronger. - Analysis is to take things apart.
- For Thrasymachus, justice is tied to interest on
the one hand and to the stronger on the other. - Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun
... Mao Zedong (1893 1976)
46Forms of Government (11)
- Tyrannies
- Democracies
- Aristocracies--Origin 155565 (lt Middle
French aristocratie ) lt Medieval Latin
aristocracia (variant of -tia ) lt Greek
aristokratía rule of the best. - See more on the topic, read Republic VIII.
- http//classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html
- Translated by Benjamin Jowett (1817 1893)
47I ask no quarter at your hand (13)
- Quarter mercy or pity, as shown to a defeated
opponent (esp. in the phrases ask for or give
quarter ) - Metonymyassociative in nature
- One thing for another
- "Hollywood" for American cinema,
- Whitehouse for the government
- I am all ears.
-
48Thrasymachus fallacy 16Something that prevails
must be right!
- Thrasymachus cited so many pieces of empirical
evidence to support that justice is the interest
of the stronger. - Reflect on the limitations of Empiricism!
- But all this is reversed in the case of the
unjust man. I am speaking, as before, of
injustice on a large scale in which the advantage
of the unjust is more apparent
49Page 19
- Thrasymachus says that the life of the unjust is
more advantageous than that of the just, - Tied to benefits/interests
- Warranted by the large number
- Everywhere
- But it doesnt necessarily mean it is right.
50Socrates Justice is harmony 23
- And this is because injustice creates divisions
and hatreds and fighting, and justice imparts
harmony and friendship is not that true,
Thrasymachus? - And is not injustice equally fatal when existing
in a single person in the first place rendering
him incapable of action because he is not at
unity with himself, and in the second place
making him an enemy to himself and the just? Is
not that true, Thrasymachus?
51Persons in the dialogueGlaucon Adei?mantus
- Glaucon (Greek G?a???? born circa 445 BC) son
of Ariston, was the philosopher Plato's older
brother. He is primarily known as a major
conversant with Socrates in Republic, and the
interlocutor during the Allegory of the Cave.
- Plato's eldest brother. Adeimantus plays an
important part in The Republic and is briefly
mentioned in The Apology and the Parmenides. In
The Republic, Adeimantus is noted for his concern
for education
52Persons in the Dialogue
- Polemarchus, an A?thenian philosopher. Plato's
Republic is set at Polemarchus' house in the
Piraeus, a seaport that was located next to their
shield manufacturing store that employed 120
skilled slaves. - Cephalus, son of Lysanias from Syracuse (5th
c.BC), a wealthy metic and elderly arms
manufacturer living in Athens who engages in
dialogue with Socrates in Plato's Republic. He
was the father of orator Lysias, philosopher
Polemarchus and Euthydemus.
53Persons in the Dialogue
- Thrasymachus (T?as?µa???) (ca. 459-400 BCE) was a
sophist of Ancient Greece best known as a
character in Plato's Republic. - "Thus, Socrates, injustice on a sufficiently
large scale is a stronger, freer, and a more
masterful thing than justice, and, as I said in
the beginning, it is the advantage of the
stronger that is the just, while the unjust is
what profits man's self and is for his
advantage.
54Persons in the Dialogue
- Cleitophon is a character in the Republic who
agrees with Thrasymachus assertion that justice
is the interest of the stronger (Course Reader
12). When this assertion is challenged with the
notion that perhaps the stronger does not know
what is in his best interest, Thrasymachus and
Cleitophon diverge. Thrasymachus asserts that he
who is truly strong must know what is best
Cleitophon solves the problem by saying that
justice is merely following the will of the
stronger in all cases.
55 Setting Pi?raeus
- a seaport in SE Greece the port of Athens.
186,223. - Plato opens his Republic with the words, I went
down to the Piraeus yesterday. The first verb
is kataben, from katabaino, meaning I went
down, the same verb that is so prevalent in Book
11 of the Odyssey, in which Odysseus offers his
blood and descends into the underworld.
56Thracians
- The ancient Thracians (Ancient Greek T???e?,
Latin Thraci) were a group of Indo-European
tribes inhabiting areas including Thrace in
Southeastern Europe. - of or pertaining to Thrace or its inhabitants.
57Reason by Analogyit is interdisciplinary in
nature
- Moving from one context to another context
- If something holds true in one context, but not
true in another context, then it is not
universal. - Reason by analogy is a way to test if a
theory/claim holds water or not.
58The Law of Contradiction
- In classical logic, the law of non-contradiction
(LNC) (or the principle of non-contradiction
(PNC), or the principle of contradiction) is the
second of the so-called three classic laws of
thought. It states that contradictory statements
cannot both at the same time be true, e.g. the
two propositions "A is B" and "A is not B" are
mutually exclusive.
59Justice Interest
- and as the government must be supposed to have
power, the only reasonable conclusion is, that
everywhere there is one principle of justice,
which is the interest of the stronger (11). - Here Thrasymachus associated justice with
interest, and interest are translated into
benefits.
60Aporia ?? In Platos early dialogues, aporia
usually spells the end
- 1. Rhetoric . the expression of a simulated or
real doubt, as about where to begin or what to do
or say. - 2. Logic, Philosophy . a difficulty encountered
in establishing the theoretical truth of a
proposition, created by the presence of evidence
both for and against it.