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Title: Plato


1
Platos RepublicEditions and Documentation
  • http//oll.libertyfund.org/?optioncom_staticxtst
    aticfileshow.php3Ftitle767chapter93807layout
    htmlItemid27
  • Marked with section numbers and brief summary on
    the right.
  • The edition we adopted has recordings online
  • http//www.archive.org/details/platos_republic_090
    2_librivox1 for recordings.
  • Listen to the recording at least once.

2
A Prologue to the whole book
  • Book I is a prologue. As it introduces the
    reader to the characters of the dialogue, it
    establishes the basic questions of the Republic
    What is justice, and why should someone prefer to
    be just rather than unjust? Most important, it
    acquaints us with both the person and the method
    of the philosopher Socrates.
  • Prologue
  • 1. a preliminary discourse a preface or
    introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel.
  • 2. an introductory speech, often in verse,
    calling attention to the theme of a play.
  • Prologue vs. epilogue prelude vs. coda in music

3
Prologue vs. Epiloguesynonyms vs. antonymsa
great way to expand vocabulary
  • Prologue--a preliminary discourse a preface or
    introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel
    an introductory speech, often in verse, calling
    attention to the theme of a play.
  • Highlight the word prologue and right click to
    see synonyms!
  • Epilogue--1. a concluding part added to a
    literary work, as a novel.
  • 2. a speech, usually in verse, delivered by one
    of the actors after the conclusion of a play.

4
The Setting
  • The setting is the Piraeus, the port of Athens,
    somewhere around 410.
  • A. The Piraeus was a stronghold of the democratic
    opposition to Tyranny.
  • B. The setting already suggests a major issue of
    the dialogue Is democracy worth fighting for,
    even dying for?
  • C. Because it is a seaport, the Piraeus is filled
    with foreigners. It thus raises a second basic
    question Is diversity a desirable quality of a
    city?

5
The first dialogue is between Socrates and
Cephalus (328d-331d)page 4 in the course reader
  • A. Cephalus warmly greets Socrates.
  • B. Socrates responds (rather rudely) by asking
    him what it is like to be old and near death. He
    also asks him what is the best thing about being
    rich.
  • C. Cephalus says he does not mind being old. The
    erotic madness of youth has passed.
  • D. Cephalus is not afraid of death, because he
    has always told the truth and paid back his
    debts.
  • E. From these casual remarks, Socrates extracts a
    definition of justice from Cephalus. It is, he
    says, telling the truth and giving back what a
    man has taken from another (331c).
  • F. Socrates then refutes this definition of
    justice with a counter-example. If you borrowed a
    knife from a friend and the friend became insane,
    it would not be just to return the knife to him
    or to tell him the truth. (Socrates pushes the
    limit here)
  • G. The key question that emerges is What is
    justice itself? This will be seen to be a very
    difficult question to answer.

6
Socrates as a GadflyEthos of his community
  • perhaps the most historically accurate of
    Socrates' offenses to the city was his position
    as a social and moral critic. Rather than
    upholding a status quo and accepting the
    development of what he perceived as immorality
    within his region, Socrates questioned the
    collective notion of "might makes right" that he
    felt was common in Greece during this period.
    Plato refers to Socrates as the "gadfly" of the
    state (as the gadfly stings the horse into
    action, so Socrates stung various Athenians),
    insofar as he irritated some people with
    considerations of justice and the pursuit of
    goodness. His attempts to improve the Athenians'
    sense of justice may have been the source of his
    execution.
  • Greece was in trouble internalwith Sparta
    (Civil War) externalwith Persians (against
    outside invasion)

7
Socrates and Polemarchus
  • The second dialogue is between Socrates and
    Polemarchus (331d-336a).
  • A. Polemarchus rescues his father from Socratess
    refutation.
  • B. Cephalus leaves (with a smile on his face) to
    perform some religious rituals He is not a
    philosopher.
  • C. Polemarchus proposes that it is just to give
    back what is owed, which he then amends to give
    to everyone what is fitting (332b). Socrates
    refutes this definition.

8
Thrasymachus RelativismWhats problem with
relativism?
  • The central debate of Book I takes place between
    Socrates and Thrasymachus, who is a Sophist.
    Thrasymachus teaches rhetoric, and he is a
    relativist. His definition of justice is the
    advantage of the stronger (338c), by which he
    means justice is determined by the ruling body.
    For example, in a monarchy, what is advantageous
    to a king would be counted as just. In a
    democracy, whose name literally means rule by
    the people, what is advantageous to the majority
    is just.
  • There is no absolute, universal, or objective
    definition of justice. What is counted as just
    varies from regime to regime.

9
Sophist
  • 1. ( often initial capital letter ) Greek History
    .
  • a. any of a class of professional teachers in
    ancient Greece who gave instruction in various
    fields, as in general culture, rhetoric,
    politics, or disputation.
  • b. a person belonging to this class at a later
    period who, while professing to teach skill in
    reasoning, concerned himself with ingenuity and
    specious effectiveness rather than soundness of
    argument.
  • 2. a person who reasons adroitly and speciously
    rather than soundly.

10
Relativism
  • noun
  • Philosophy . any theory holding that criteria of
    judgment are relative,  varying with individuals
    and their environments.

11
Tyranny of the MajorityJohn Stuart Mill
  • The phrase "tyranny of the majority" originates
    with Alexis de Tocqueville in his Democracy in
    America, where it is the name of an entire
    section (1835, 1840) and was further popularized
    by John Stuart Mill, who cites de Tocqueville, in
    On Liberty (1859).

12
A straw man
  • A straw man is a component of an argument and is
    an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of
    an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man"
    is to create the illusion of having refuted a
    proposition by replacing it with a superficially
    similar yet un-equivalent proposition (the "straw
    man"), and refuting it, without ever having
    actually refuted the original position.

13
Thrasymachus definition of justice
  • Thrasymachus, a Sophist, enters the scene. He
    defines justice as the advantage of the
    stronger (338c).
  • A. Justice is whatever is advantageous to the
    ruler.
  • B. In a democracy, justice is whatever is
    advantageous to the people.
  • C. There is no absolute definition of justice it
    is relative to the regime.
  • D. Rhetoric is often defined as the art of
    persuasion and goes hand in hand with relativism.

14
Socrates Refutation
  • Socrates refutes Thrasymachus (339a340a). His
    first argument against the Sophist is the
    following
  • A. Thrasymachus believes that it is just to obey
    all laws.
  • B. He agrees that sometimes rulers make mistakes.
  • C. A mistaken law is one that is not advantageous
    to the ruler.
  • D. Because Thrasymachus has agreed that it is
    just to obey all the laws, he is committed to
    saying that it is sometimes just to obey laws
    that are disadvantageous to the ruler.
  • E. Thrasymachus has contradicted himself Justice
    both is and is not advantageous to the ruler.

15
Cleitophons Revision
  • Cleitophon offers his assistance Justice, he
    proposes, is what the stronger believes to be
    his advantage (340b). a more subjective view
  • This is a significant revision of Thrasymachuss
    position, because it eliminates the possibility
    of making mistakes. Cleitophon is a radical
    relativist.
  • Thrasymachus rejects Cleitophons suggestion
    because he thinks the ruler is like a craftsman
    (340e) who has real knowledge. (The Greek word
    for craft is technê, which can also be
    translated as art.)

16
Socrates presents a second refutation of
Thrasymachus
  • Socrates presents a second refutation of
    Thrasymachus (341c342e).
  • A. The ruler is like a craftsman. He has a
    technê, a craft or an art.
  • B. All craftsmen are directed toward and seek the
    advantage of the object of their craft.
  • 1. The doctor cares for the sick.
  • 2. The pilot cares for the sailors.
  • 3. Therefore, all craftsmen are naturally
    directed toward seeking and providing for the
    advantage (341d) of the object of their technê,
    not themselves!

17
Injustice is superior to justice
  • Thrasymachus changes his position Injustice is
    superior to justice. It is more powerful than
    justice. Being unjust is the way to bring
    advantage to oneself. (See 344c.)
  • A. This a radical challenge to the goodness of
    justice.
  • B. It raises a fundamental question Why be just
    when, if you are unjust, you can benefit
    yourself? What is the value of justice?

18
The third refutation of Thrasymachus
  • Socrates presents a third refutation of
    Thrasymachus (345e346e).
  • A. Ruling is like a craft or an art (technê).
  • B. Craftsmen receive wages for their work.
  • C. This implies that their work is not simply for
    their own advantage they demand wages in order
    to be rewarded for their work. No art generates
    its own advantage. (See 346e.)
  • D. Rulers receive wages.
  • E. Therefore, ruling benefits those who are
    ruled, not the rulers.

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Hint on your summaryhttp//www.archive.org/detail
s/platos_republic_0902_librivox1 for recording
  • At the Narrative Level Use the Six Ws to
    contextualize the text and to orient yourselves.
  • The first half of page 1 offers such information
    as the themes of the dialogue, and participants.
  • Write your summary here

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Contextual Information
  • When Book I opens, Socrates is returning home
    from a religious festival with his young friend
    Glaucon, one of Platos brothers.
  • Ironic situation
  • A torch-race on horseback in honor of the
    goddess
  • Why is it a novelty?
  • Whats so dangerous?

21
Got Waylaid (page 1)by force (of the stronger)
  • On the road, Socrates and his companions are
    waylaid by Adeimantus, another brother of Plato,
    and the young nobleman Polemarchus, who convinces
    them to take a detour to his house.
  • There they join Polemarchuss aging father
    Cephalus, and others. Socrates and the elderly
    man begin a discussion on the merits of old age.
    This discussion quickly turns to the subject of
    justice.
  • And are you stronger than all these? for if not,
    you will have to remain where you are (Course
    Reader 1). Playful but heavy-handed.

22
Conversation Journey (2)Reason by analogy
  • the more the pleasures of the body fade away,
    the greater to me is the pleasure and charm of
    conversation.
  • I replied There is nothing which for my part I
    like better, Cephalus, than conversing with aged
    men for I regard them as travelers who have gone
    a journey which I too may have to go, and of whom
    I ought to enquire, whether the way is smooth and
    easy, or rugged and difficult (2).

23
Metaphor (page 2)
  • Men of my age flock together we are birds of a
    feather. (the subject/the predicate)
  • The curtain of night fell on somewhere.
  • Midnight ?? is a novel written by Mao Dun
    published in 1933. The title refers to the
    political situation in China, the darkest moment
    in history.

24
Patrimony (page 3)
  • noun, plural -nies.
  • 1. an estate inherited from one's father or
    ancestors.
  • 2. any quality, characteristic, etc., that is
    inherited heritage.
  • 3. the aggregate of one's property.
  • 4. the estate or endowment of a church, religious
    house, etc.

25
Reason by analogy
  • the makers of fortunes have a second love of
    money as a creation of their own, resembling the
    affection of authors for their own poems, or of
    parents for their children, besides that natural
    love of it for the sake of use and profit which
    is common to them and all men (3).

26
Old age, wealth, reflectionsuch topics lead to
justice
  • when a man thinks himself to be near death,
    fears and cares enter into his mind which he
    never had before the tales of a world below and
    the punishment which is exacted there of deeds
    done here were once a laughing matter to him, but
    now he is tormented with the thought that they
    may be true either from the weakness of age, or
    because he is now drawing nearer to that other
    place, he has a clearer view of these things
    suspicions and alarms crowd thickly upon him, and
    he begins to reflect and consider what wrongs he
    has done to others (3).

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What is justice? (4)Restorative Justice
  • Simonides (a minor Greek poet) Speak the truth
    and pay your debt
  • Justice is to return what is due
  • Socrates challenge Justice is more than just
    return what is due.

28
Cephalus vs. SocratesContradict by shifting to
another contextor extending to another scenario
  • Cephalus, a rich, well-respected elder of the
    city, and host to the group, is the first to
    offer a definition of justice. Cephalus acts as
    spokesman for the Greek tradition. His definition
    of justice is an attempt to articulate the basic
    Hesiodic conception that justice means living up
    to your legal obligations and being honest.
  • Socrates defeats this formulation with a
    counterexample returning a weapon to a madman,
    better yet, to a murderer!. You owe the madman
    his weapon in some sense if it belongs to him
    legally, and yet this would be an unjust act,
    since it would jeopardize the lives of others. So
    it cannot be the case that justice is nothing
    more than honoring legal obligations and being
    honest.

29
Socrates shifted a conceptReason vs. Fallacy
  • To return what you own to someone
  • This falls into restorative justice
  • To return a weapon to a murderer is a different
    situation
  • Socrates did not offer the scenario how we got
    this weapon from the murderer in the first place.
    After the murder, the murderer is no longer
    entitled to his weapon. The law will override
    his ownership of the weapon.

30
Justice is to do good to a friend, evil to an
enemy. (page 5)
  • Says Polemarchus quoting Si?monides, 556?468?
    b.c.,  Greek poet justice is the art that gives
    good to a friend, evil to an enemy. (challenge
    this definition)
  • Reason by analogy
  • Physician/pilot/

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Greek Traditional View of Justice
  • Traditionally, the Greek conception of justice
    came from poets like Hesiod, who in Works and
    Days presents justice as a certain set of acts
    that must be followed. The reason for being just,
    as presented by the traditional view, was
    consideration of reward and punishment Zeus
    rewards those who are good and punishes those who
    are bad.

32
Should we harm our enemies?What if we are on the
wrong side of history?
  • Socrates reveals many inconsistencies in this
    view. He points out that, because our judgment
    concerning friends and enemies is fallible, this
    credo will lead us to harm the good and help the
    bad. We are not always friends with the most
    virtuous individuals, nor are our enemies always
    the scum of society. Socrates points out that
    there is something incoherent in the idea of
    harming someone (even if our enemy) through
    justice.

33
If we are ignorant of human nature, can we tell
who are our friends and who are our enemies?
  • But see the consequence --Many a man who is
    ignorant of human nature has friends who are bad
    friends, and in that case he ought to do harm to
    them and he has good enemies whom he ought to
    benefit (8).
  • Stiff application (paralysis in James Joyces
    words) of the rule that we should do good to our
    friends and do harm to our enemies could be
    consequential.

34
http//www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searchExodus
21versionNIVin the Old Testament
  • New International Version eye for eye, tooth for
    tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for
    burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise (Exodus
    21).
  • King James Version Eye for eye, tooth for tooth,
    hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for
    burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

35
How to react to violence?How to right a wrong?
  • What is the logical consequence if responding to
    violence with violence?
  • Two wrongs wont make it right.
  • Review Jesus teaching in the New Testament
  • 38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye
    for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth 39 But I
    say unto you, That ye resist not evil but
    whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek,
    turn to him the other also. (Mathew 5)

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Justice (utilitarian view 6-7)
  • Socrates You think that justice may be of use in
    peace as well as in war?
  • Is justice something that is useful? If it is, it
    is useful always for something else. Then the
    definition is shifted to something external.
  • Justice has its criteria, independent of
    utilities.
  • Autonomous vs. heteronomous
  • Heteronomy the condition of being under the
    domination of an outside authority, either human
    or divine.
  • Autonomy freedom, independence, free of external
    influences, out of your own free will, your own
    choice

37
By shifting terms,Socrates led us to such a
definition
  • Now justice seems an art of theft! (7)
  • By adding words, by shifting contexts
  • Look for inconsistencies and contradictions

38
Real vs. seemingreal vs. appearance
  • Plato talks so much on the distinction between
    the real and appearance. This has something to
    do with his insistence on seeking the truth.
  • Seeming in appearance but not necessarily in
    actuality with seemingly effortless ease

39
Allusion to Homer (7)
  • Au?tolycus, the maternal father of Odysseus.
    Classical Mythology a thief, the son of Hermes
    and Chione, and the grandfather of Odysseus. He
    possessed the power of changing the shape of
    whatever he stole and of making it and himself
    invisible as if he wore a magic ring.

40
Utilitarianism is a form of ConsequentialismShoul
d we Do the right things in the wrong way?
  • Justice is an art of theft to be used for the
    good of friends and for the harm of enemies. (7)
  • Meaning is determined by consequences.
  • Deng Xiaoping (1904 1997) It doesnt matter
    whether it is a white cat or a black cat as long
    as it catches rats, it is a good cat.
  • It doesnt matter how rats are caught.
  • British--Taking over Hong Kong as a result of the
    first Opium War in 1939.
  • Does it matter if the means by which a goal is
    accomplished is not ethical?

41
Intentionalism
  • Irony
  • A surgeon wanted to save a patient but the
    patient died on the operation table
  • Unintended consequences
  • Premeditated murder is the crime of wrongfully
    causing the death of another human being (also
    known as murder) after rationally considering the
    timing or method of doing so, in order to either
    increase the likelihood of success, or to evade
    detection or apprehension.

42
Sillybillies (page 9)a name for someone,
especially a child, who is behaving in a silly way
  • Silly Billy was a type of clown common at fairs
    in England during the 19th century. They were
    also common in London as a street entertainer,
    along with the similar clown Billy Barlow. The
    act included playing the part of a fool or idiot,
    impersonating a child and singing comic songs.
  • The name is popular because of its nice rhyme and
    was used as a generic nickname for foolish
    people, especially those named William such as
    Prince William Frederick and King William IV.

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Making ConcessionsRhetorical Function
  • Polemarchus and I may have been guilty of a
    little mistake in the argument, but I can assure
    you that the error was not intentional (9).
  • Granted however
  • It is true that however
  • Make a little turn, as a little creek is trying
    to gather more water so that later it will rush
    forward with greater momentum

44
Interdict 10
  • noun
  • 1. Civil Law . any prohibitory act or decree of a
    court or an administrative officer.
  • 2. Roman Catholic Church . a punishment by
    which the faithful, remaining in communion with
    the church, are forbidden certain sacraments and
    prohibited from participation in certain sacred
    acts.
  • 3. Roman Law . a general or special order of the
    Roman praetor forbidding or commanding an act,
    especially in cases involving disputed
    possession.
  • verb (used with object)
  • 4. to forbid prohibit.
  • 5. Ecclesiastical . to cut off authoritatively
    from certain ecclesiastical functions and
    privileges.
  • 6. to impede by steady bombardment Constant air
    attacks interdicted the enemy's advance.

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Thrasymachus definition of justice (11)
  • Listen, then, he said I proclaim that justice is
    nothing else than the interest of the stronger.
  • Analysis is to take things apart.
  • For Thrasymachus, justice is tied to interest on
    the one hand and to the stronger on the other.
  • Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun
    ... Mao Zedong (1893  1976)

46
Forms of Government (11)
  • Tyrannies
  • Democracies
  • Aristocracies--Origin 155565  (lt Middle
    French aristocratie ) lt Medieval Latin
    aristocracia  (variant of -tia ) lt Greek
    aristokratía  rule of the best.
  • See more on the topic, read Republic VIII.
  • http//classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html
  • Translated by Benjamin Jowett (1817 1893)

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I ask no quarter at your hand (13)
  • Quarter mercy or pity, as shown to a defeated
    opponent (esp. in the phrases ask for  or give
    quarter )
  • Metonymyassociative in nature
  • One thing for another
  • "Hollywood" for American cinema,
  • Whitehouse for the government
  • I am all ears.

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Thrasymachus fallacy 16Something that prevails
must be right!
  • Thrasymachus cited so many pieces of empirical
    evidence to support that justice is the interest
    of the stronger.
  • Reflect on the limitations of Empiricism!
  • But all this is reversed in the case of the
    unjust man. I am speaking, as before, of
    injustice on a large scale in which the advantage
    of the unjust is more apparent

49
Page 19
  • Thrasymachus says that the life of the unjust is
    more advantageous than that of the just,
  • Tied to benefits/interests
  • Warranted by the large number
  • Everywhere
  • But it doesnt necessarily mean it is right.

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Socrates Justice is harmony 23
  • And this is because injustice creates divisions
    and hatreds and fighting, and justice imparts
    harmony and friendship is not that true,
    Thrasymachus?
  • And is not injustice equally fatal when existing
    in a single person in the first place rendering
    him incapable of action because he is not at
    unity with himself, and in the second place
    making him an enemy to himself and the just? Is
    not that true, Thrasymachus?

51
Persons in the dialogueGlaucon Adei?mantus
  • Glaucon (Greek G?a???? born circa 445 BC) son
    of Ariston, was the philosopher Plato's older
    brother. He is primarily known as a major
    conversant with Socrates in Republic, and the
    interlocutor during the Allegory of the Cave.
  • Plato's eldest brother. Adeimantus plays an
    important part in The Republic and is briefly
    mentioned in The Apology and the Parmenides. In
    The Republic, Adeimantus is noted for his concern
    for education

52
Persons in the Dialogue
  • Polemarchus, an A?thenian philosopher. Plato's
    Republic is set at Polemarchus' house in the
    Piraeus, a seaport that was located next to their
    shield manufacturing store that employed 120
    skilled slaves.
  • Cephalus, son of Lysanias from Syracuse (5th
    c.BC), a wealthy metic and elderly arms
    manufacturer living in Athens who engages in
    dialogue with Socrates in Plato's Republic. He
    was the father of orator Lysias, philosopher
    Polemarchus and Euthydemus.

53
Persons in the Dialogue
  • Thrasymachus (T?as?µa???) (ca. 459-400 BCE) was a
    sophist of Ancient Greece best known as a
    character in Plato's Republic.
  • "Thus, Socrates, injustice on a sufficiently
    large scale is a stronger, freer, and a more
    masterful thing than justice, and, as I said in
    the beginning, it is the advantage of the
    stronger that is the just, while the unjust is
    what profits man's self and is for his
    advantage.

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Persons in the Dialogue
  • Cleitophon is a character in the Republic who
    agrees with Thrasymachus assertion that justice
    is the interest of the stronger (Course Reader
    12). When this assertion is challenged with the
    notion that perhaps the stronger does not know
    what is in his best interest, Thrasymachus and
    Cleitophon diverge. Thrasymachus asserts that he
    who is truly strong must know what is best
    Cleitophon solves the problem by saying that
    justice is merely following the will of the
    stronger in all cases.

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Setting Pi?raeus
  • a seaport in SE Greece the port of Athens.
    186,223.
  • Plato opens his Republic with the words, I went
    down to the Piraeus yesterday.  The first verb
    is kataben, from katabaino, meaning I went
    down, the same verb that is so prevalent in Book
    11 of the Odyssey, in which Odysseus offers his
    blood and descends into the underworld.

56
Thracians
  • The ancient Thracians (Ancient Greek T???e?,
    Latin Thraci) were a group of Indo-European
    tribes inhabiting areas including Thrace in
    Southeastern Europe.
  • of or pertaining to Thrace or its inhabitants.

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Reason by Analogyit is interdisciplinary in
nature
  • Moving from one context to another context
  • If something holds true in one context, but not
    true in another context, then it is not
    universal.
  • Reason by analogy is a way to test if a
    theory/claim holds water or not.

58
The Law of Contradiction
  • In classical logic, the law of non-contradiction
    (LNC) (or the principle of non-contradiction
    (PNC), or the principle of contradiction) is the
    second of the so-called three classic laws of
    thought. It states that contradictory statements
    cannot both at the same time be true, e.g. the
    two propositions "A is B" and "A is not B" are
    mutually exclusive.

59
Justice Interest
  • and as the government must be supposed to have
    power, the only reasonable conclusion is, that
    everywhere there is one principle of justice,
    which is the interest of the stronger (11).
  • Here Thrasymachus associated justice with
    interest, and interest are translated into
    benefits.

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Aporia ?? In Platos early dialogues, aporia
usually spells the end
  • 1. Rhetoric . the expression of a simulated or
    real doubt, as about where to begin or what to do
    or say.
  • 2. Logic, Philosophy . a difficulty encountered
    in establishing the theoretical truth of a
    proposition, created by the presence of evidence
    both for and against it.
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