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Title: Molecular and other biotech


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Molecular and other biotech
  • Dag Lindgren
  • Uppsala 14 maj

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Reservation I am not very suitable to make this
presentation or task, because I am too negatively
biased. It costs non-biotech genetics at SLU a
high price is less relevance for coming
generations and Swedish forestry.
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  • Normally it takes long time before an idea to
    practice.
  • Practice must normally start slow in small scale
    before it becomes a main method.
  • The small development scale is not
    implementation, but research funded by research
    grants or development money, not routine
    breeding.
  • It is first when something is seen a routine
    breeding financed by routine breeding it is
    implemented.
  • To be implemented in routine breeding in ten
    years and thus qualify for preparations according
    to this document, most methods should already now
    been used for development in compartments of the
    breeding population (like pine cuttings for
    breeding). To really trust in a new method it
    should be used in a compartment for a cycle, that
    is gt20 years! Research with external funding,
    where normally the driving force is University
    scientists is not implementation.Promising
    progress does not mean breeding routine within
    10 years.
  • New methods will usually complement old ones. Not
    replace, but just add something. The competence
    to handle trees in experiment which are managed
    and measured about as it is done now will still
    be needed.

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Biotech progress is often overexegarated
  • We placed markers on gene maps of Scots pine
    almost four decades ago.
  • We could identify individuals of the same clone
    by markers three decades ago.
  • We measured pollen contamination with markers two
    decades ago.
  • We talked about GMOs two decades ago.
  • We have worked towards clonal forestry for spruce
    in four decades. (Clonal forestry seems as the
    horizon, it does not come closer by walking
    towards it)

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Molecular markers - identification
  • The molecular markers become more powerful during
    the decades. But everything is not a revolution
    by several magnitudes, but say a factor 3 in 20
    years as price tag for the same pollen
    contamination investigation and the same
    competence needed. Larger factor if big scaled
    (five man-years) and for a few specific purposes.
    It is seldom low-cost.

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Parentage
  • It is possible to decide which (among suspects)
    are the parents to a tree. That could find
    immediate applications in operative breeding.
  • Reliability is high enough and increase.
  • Costs is probably affordable for some
    applications and decrease.

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  • Markers can experimentally estimate effective
    size (status number, coancestry, group
    coancestry, gene diversity), which actually is a
    requirement in BC. (Similar to Wrights
    F-statistics, FST) Can monitor changes of these
    parameters over time. Routine monitoring by
    Skogforsk could be discussed, I think it may be
    too early to make it routine the next decade. But
    some scientists are keen to measure real
    materials by research grants.
  • Inbreeding and relatedness will be better
    monitored.

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Seed orchard contamination, dysfunction and male
fertility can be better studied
  • This has been possible some decades, but a study
    now probably get 3 times more results more
    certain at the same cost as some decades ago.
  • We have got funding from föreningen for a seed
    orchard study (Västerhus) and the first results
    (300 seeds) has come. The pollen contamination is
    about 50, confirming results decades ago with
    less reliable markers. I had hoped that we
    overestimated the problem because of inadequate
    technique, but it seems we did not.
  • David Hall is planning a contamination study, but
    he has done so some years without execution.
  • It feels too early to comment on the feasibility,
    it was more problematic than I thought when
    planning the study.

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Tag error elimination
  • The breeding population could be checked for
    errors in pedigree.
  • Erronously tagged clones occur. Yoshinary
    suggests 10 on average and 50 in special cases.
    Johan checked an Umeå seed orchard material and
    found no error in 36 ramets. I personally checked
    a Turkish seed orchard and found at least one
    error among 75 ramets.
  • Of the magnitude almost 1 of trees in the Seed
    orchard Västerhus are rootstocks which have
    replaced a dead graft. We found with markers 1
    mislabelled graft among 84.
  • I believe Swedish breeders are extremely clever
    and careful, so the error-rate in breeding
    material is certainly below 5. But this figure
    could be good to verify!
  • Probably it is not justified to make it a
    routine, but at least it is something which
    requires more discussion.
  • I suggest Skogforsk initiates a project to
    estimate different type of identification errors
    connected to breeding and seed orchards. With the
    results, it can be discussed if some type of
    routine.

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Routine DNA sampling?
  • It may be a good idea to routinely store a DNA
    sample of every founder of the breeding
    population forever? (Gene conservation). To be
    able to do investigations in the future and check
    impact of the founders on the Swedish forest in
    some distant future. The option will be gone
    forever soon to sample the founders. I guess it
    is cheap, it just mean collection and storage of
    a small piece of tissue.
  • I suggest a feasibility study is done by someone
    at Skogforsk.
  • Do not forget that it is also politically correct.

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  • Markers help to study gene-flow, alien genes,
    domestication of genes, pollen flight in natural
    forests, genetic structure of natural forests,
    immigration history, autochtony. Skogforsk could
    stimulate that such studies by Universities give
    relevant information for forestry.

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Breeding without breedingPolycross breeding etc.
  • I talked about that in Ekebo May 2007 and
    presented ideas in detail, I will not repeat that
    now, but magnification of some details will be
    given in Ekebo May 2008.
  • I work on it with Xiao-Ru Wang, we got funds for
    a minor Scots pine study, which is going on, some
    material is planned to be collected outside Umeå
    10 June, and we apply for a Norway spruce study
    and got funding for some pilot work (e.g.
    material collection), we have bought tickets for
    Ekebo 28-29 May to collect material (Bo
    Karlsson).
  • It is possible to use polycrosses for selection
    forwards. I do not recommand to think about this
    as a major strategy, but I recommand to compose
    pollen mixes so this is feasible, if PC anyway is
    done (I told how a year ago).

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Rekommendation för BWB
  • Det är ganska troligt specialfall av BWB kommer
    till praktisk användning i operativ förädling
    inom tio år thus within the period of study.
  • Genomslag kan ske snabbt (no real risk involved,
    need not wait a full breeding cycle for full
    scale implementation, actually some ideas can be
    immediatly implemented if they work)
  • I do not predict a large scale break-through
    within the next four years, but it is not
    excluded.
  • Skogforsk understöd forskning och stimulera
    forskning på skarpa material. Have a
    preparedness to implement it for real breeding.

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Markers for associations
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Marker aided selection
  • Important genes may not be identifyable and
    reproducible, it may just appear so.
  • Negative genes (inbreeding) may seem important,
    thus MAS effort may result in weeding of
    unimportant genes rather than selection for
    important
  • Important gene in one genetic and physical
    environment may not be important in another (thus
    a lot of possible interactions not considered in
    simple experiments).
  • Unstable genes
  • Field performance is the added action of all
    important genes, MAS gives just a small part of
    them.
  • Higher selection effort for one thing means lower
    for all others. The breeding stock is usually a
    limited resource.
  • A large added administrative trouble, costs for
    sampling and preparation, costs for analyses,
    costs for compiling data from different sources.
  • If one start select for good DNA-pieces, it is an
    evident risk of faster accumulation of coancestry
    and subsequent inbreeding.
  • Growth in mature age may be the most important,
    and probably too composite and complex to locate
    on the gene map.
  • Not sufficiently dense maps yet for Swedish
    conifers Insufficient polymorphy.
  • Riskier to change influence of one piece on the
    genome beyond the natural variation, than to get
    the same effect on production value by many small
    changes in different parts of the genome
  • Genes may have many effects so a MAS indication
    does not eliminate the need for field test,
  • Yet forbiddingly expensive.
  • Etc

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MAS
  • 20 years of QTL research gave us good insight
    about genome organization, but no meaningful QTL
    to hang the hat on.
  • FAO conference 2003 on MAS. From summary 2.7
    Practical applications of MAS Although
    documentation was limited, the current impact
    seemed small   
  • Efforts have been going on for at least a decade
    for forest trees in Sweden, without coming near
    to an application.
  • At least one scientist reasearching it in Sweden
    (Reza Yasdani) got the sack and few of the
    pioneers in MAS applying it to forest tree
    breeding is with us any more

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Not extreme close linkage
  • Cis- and trans- different in different families
  • Different associations in different materials

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Associations (populationwide linkage
disequilibrium)
  • Usually not large effects
  • It will probably take some time (10 years) till
    the pine and spruce genome will be sufficiently
    densily covered.
  • Not that mature field, so remains to see what
    will come. But linkage disequilibrium may mark
    more than a family, it may be enough to get the
    fine scaled gene mapping on the population level.
  • It may give us multi-locus markers, which would
    be much more powerful for e.g. BWB than e.g.
    micro-satellites.

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I searched my 50 first hits on the webI also
looked in Wicopedia
  • Association mapping I found no successful
    breeding operation
  • QTL I found no successful breeding operation
  • (the limit to successful may be debated)
  • Neither any student in the research school could
    point at a successful commercial application.

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Place in system
  • MAS research should not be seen as applied and
    motivated by the possible practical applications.
  • Instead it should be viewed as basic research.
  • Guess it is on way down internationally as both
    basic and applied research. (My feeling only.)

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Domestic animals
  • Still large commercial investments are done
    relying on MAS variants in animals, but the real
    result is uncertain and badly documented.
  • The documented positive experience with animals
    is rather meager, mainly single genes connected
    to resistance to diseases.
  • Patrik gave a rather pessimistic view at his
    docentföreläsning.

22
Agricultural Plant Breeding
  • Usually they use nearly homozygous lines which
    are crossed rather seldom. Markers helps to keep
    track of known genes after such recombinations.
    But foresters do not use lines or known genes.
  • A rather large share of the breeding efforts is
    to make varieties marketable, thus homogenous,
    stable and distinct, and markers help in that
    respect. But such demands are not pressing for
    forest varieties.

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MAS conclusion
  • Will not be implemented in operative breeding
    within ten years
  • The prognosis considering the large investments
    under long time seems not good. Suggest it is
    seen as basic research, not applied.
  • Associations (disequilibriums) is a possible
    development, but still farer away to operative
    breeding.
  • Associated genes may be useful as markers but
    maps are still not dense enough
  • I suggest no support, not even mentally, from
    Skogforsk. Off course Skogforsk is always helpful
    with being a discussion partner, in particular
    help with identifying and access to material, and
    is willing to assist practically for costs paid,
    but not beyond that.

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Molecular diagnostic tools
  • The state of plants not always directly coupled
    to the genes that control the physiological
    process will be easier to record with molecular
    symptoms. New measurement devices for relevant
    characters can be foreseen. Then they appear and
    has left the development stage Skogforsk can test.

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GMO
  • That GMO will not be implemented in operative
    breeding within the next decade I consider so
    uncontroversial within Skogforsk, so I will not
    talk much about the opportunities with GMO.
  • There are full GMO presentations on my web if
    someone is interested, and I have given them, so
    many of you have listened. My time for
    presentation is limited.
  • I will instead talk about what I think Skogforsk
    should do the next ten years.

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UPSC has now a release withGMO trees at Umeå
(Stefan Jansson)
The genotypes are not hardy, in greenhouse in
winter, so it is only a semi-release!
Perhaps the only outside GMO trees in whole EU
2006?
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GMO is bad PR, therefore Skogforsk should not be
associated with the first batches of GMO field
trials
  • As there are no field trials and no plans for
    real field trials it is no sacrifice. Just that
    there are no field trials yet is a sufficient
    argument that GMO will not be in operative
    breeding in ten years.
  • Swedish GMO field trials should first be managed
    by governmental institutions (SLU and its
    Research Parks).
  • To manage GMO trials is a skill and competence,
    which need to be developed at SLU before
    Skogforsk takes over and learn from SLU
    experiences.

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  • The first batches of GMO field trials has a too
    basic character to be of interest for the applied
    Skogforsk.
  • If Skogforsk becomes associated with GMO field
    tests, it will give the public and the granting
    agencies the false impression that practical
    implementation is near and supported by Skogforsk
    and its breeders. The propaganda from the
    Scientists will magnify that impression and to
    overselling of the possibilities.
  • GMO field trials are likely to get unwelcome
    attention and visits.

29
GMO trees under attack
The only field trial with GMO trees of relevance
for Scandinavian forestry (birch at Punkaharju)
was visited by activists in July 2002. Warning
signs were posted, but no other harm.
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GMO trees under attack
The trial was destroyed June 20, 2004. The
seedlings were broken off or ripped from the
ground.
When the vandalism was reported to the police,
local greenies reciprocated by reporting the
Institute for unsafe management and for
unreported material in this field experiment.
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  • In BC seed orchards and Yousry El-Kassabys car
    were vandalized as greenies thought these in some
    way were associated with GMO. Therefore the
    street address of the BC manager visiting our
    seed orchard conference is secret.
  • Green certification generally do not approve GMO.

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  • State and governmental agencies can deal with
    these PR problems. For university scientists
    funding or reputation it seem not to be a
    problem, they can trustworthy claim that it basic
    research and they got the advantages of appearing
    futuristic and in the frontline.
  • For associations like Skogforsk close to forestry
    with real forests, GMO can cause large problems,
    and not just for those directly involved, but
    innocent bystanders may also be hit.

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  • Actually GMO IS the future, but the VERY far
    future. To evaluate the GMOs and bring them to
    use we need field trials. So verbally Skogforsk
    may encourage GMO field trials and development of
    competence to manage them at SLU.
  • When the first batches of real GMO field trials
    has been out a number of years without trouble,
    Skogforsk may revise the policy.

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Vegetative propagation somatic embryogenesis of
Norway spruce
  • Hundreds of SE clones are under testing
  • One percent of the southern US pine market is SE.
    The plants are sold to the public for 2-3 SEK.
  • Field trials with SE southern pines develop
    normal
  • STT invests in somatic embryogenesis.
  • I cannot see a reason why STT could not set up a
    unit in Sweden if forestry pays 2 SEK more for a
    plant which increases production 20. The unit
    can be build immediately, as the biggest problem
    is if forestry wants to pay for the gain, there
    is not reason waiting. The largest and safest
    gain comes from mass-multiplication of families
    with selected parents, do not wait for tested
    clones! The mass-multiplied families will plow
    the way for the tested clones.

35
A million SE plants. Plum Creek Nursery in Georgia
Photo Dag Lingren Sept 06
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Plantation with SE trees Sept 06 in Georgia
Photo Dag Lingren Sept 06
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Transplantation maching, SE miniplugs are
transplanted to open land. Nursery in Georgia
Photo Dag Lingren Sept 06
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Skogsbruk med SE-kloner
  • Det torde vara tekniskt och biologiskt möjligt
    att använda SE-kloner av gran i operativt
    skogsbruk inom några år så att produktionen
    förbättras. Merkostnaden torde kunna pressas till
    vad den är på marknaden i USA, 2 kronor/planta
  • En eller några procent av plantmarknaden är
    ekonomiskt tillgänglig med dagens teknik. Resten
    tycker det är för dyrt och komplicerat. Den
    tillgängliga marknaden är för liten för att vara
    värd att investera för.
  • För att marknaden skall bli tillräckligt stor
    fordras
  • antingen att merkostnaden blir obetydlig eller
    noll. Det är ingen orimlig tanke att artificiella
    klonade industriellt framställda frön skall kunna
    blir billigare än fröplantagefrö. Så detta är
    värt att satsa på långsiktigt!
  • eller att skogsbruket radikalt uppvärderar vad
    den genetiska vinsten är värd. Det är ingen
    orimlig tanke att det går att framställa
    SE-system så detta går.
  • Det är realistiskt att tro att man om man
    omedelbart investerade på en SE anläggning med
    CellFor modellen skulle kunna få fram 10 miljoner
    granplantor per år 2011 som kunde säljas för 3
    kronor styck och därigenom göra investeringen
    lönsam. Jag föreslår att storskogsbruket nu
    tecknar kontrakt med STT att köpa 2 millioner
    småplantor per år för omskolning till containers
    under 2010-2016 för 3 kronor per omskolningsbar
    småplanta för att driva fram en tekniskt
    utveckling som kan användas när de testade SE
    klonerna kommer. Jag föreslår att detta system
    planeras för nordeuropa och inte enbart Sverige,
    så man får en större marknad för dyra plantor.
    Pluggarna transporteras i kyltransporter över den
    amerikanska kontinenten, man kan göra en liknande
    distribution i Europa. Iden på kort sikt är
    uppblåsning av de bästa fröna som ändå kommit
    fram i granförädlingen 2006. Övergången till
    testade kloner kan ske gradvis allteftersom
    säkrare testresultat kommer fram.

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  • If SE reaches the praxis in some scale I also
    suggest that Skogforsk consider changing
    technique for clone test to SE.
  • I suggest that Skogforsk also encourages forestry
    to classical vegetative propagation by cuttings.
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