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Title: Aim: Why no


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Aim Why no kings among the Greeks?
  • What form of government should take its place?

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From Homer to Herodotus why no true monarchs?
  • Geography city-states (poli), rather than
    kingdoms
  • Culture / State-Building - more tribal, like
    Jacobsens primitive democracy
  • Technology the phalanx/hoplites creates
    citizen landholders with rights - why?

Athens as a special case The poor rowed its
ships, demanded equal rights
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From Homer to Herodotus why no monarchs?
  • A period of experimentation
  • Tyrannies
  • Oligarchies
  • Direct democracies
  • No one idea dominated for long in any city
  • Debate about which form was best and best for
    who the state or the individual?

4
From Herodotus to Sophocles the needs of the
individual, the needs of the state
  • Who was right and wrong?
  • Doesnt Creon have right to expect she will
    follow the law? What if no one followed the law?
  • Can exceptional individuals decide not to
    follow the law?
  • What if the law or state is wrong?
  • How does this relate to whats going on in the
    Greek world? How does this relate to our world?

5
Socrates, Plato, Aristotle all were opponents of
direct democracy
  • Socrates taught the oligarchs of Athens, who
    tried to end direct democracy, and justified it
    intellectually because the common people were
    blockheads
  • Plato believed in a state run by
    philosopher-kings those most capable of getting
    to the truth
  • Aristotle was the tutor of Alexander the Great
    and felt only those of the middle class should
    be part of government, not the uneducated mob

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Were the Greeks unique or may there have been
many other societies debating these types of
questions before empire established itself?
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