Title: First Flights of the ATF Prototypes
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2First Flights of the ATF Prototypes
YF-22 Dave Ferguson Tom Morgenfeld YF-23
Paul Metz Jim Sandberg
3Our Cheerful Staff Is Ready To Fly For You!
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5ATF Chronology
- Study Contracts since the late 1970s
- 01 Oct 1986 Contract Awards
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- LOCKHEED/ GENERAL DYNAMICS
- NORTHROP/McDONNELL DOUGLAS
- Pratt Whitney
- General Electric
- Apr 1991 Downselects
6THE SKUNKS
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8YF -22 Lightnings
9YF-23 Ghosts
10ATF Chronology
- Study Contracts since the late 1970s
- 01 Oct 1986 Contract Awards
- 27 Aug 1990 YF-23 1 (PW)
- 29 Sep YF-22 1 (GE)
- 26 Oct YF-23 2 (GE)
- 30 Oct YF-22 2 (PW)
- Apr 1991 Downselects
11YF-23 PAV 1 27 AUG 1990 PAUL METZ
12YF-23 PAV-1 First Flight
- Scrupulous TEAM preparation
- Off-the-shelf aint if its changed
- The magic works, but the plumbing dont
13YF-22 SHIP 1 29 SEPT 1990
- Dave Ferguson YF-22 Chief Test
Pilot
14YF-22 Ship 1 First Flight
- Schedule imperatives are REAL.
- PLAN to be flexible
- Flight/Ground Idle STATE changes
- The First Flights not done til the test cards
are.
15Jim Sandberg YF-23 Project Pilot
The YF-23 Dem-Val Program
YF-23 PAV 2 26 OCT 1990
16YF-23 PAV-2 First Flight
- Been there, done that
- Darryl always used to say
- The First Flights not done til the test cards
are.
17Lesson Learned
- Been there, done that, but
- Always beware of taking off in the opposite
direction on a single runway on a different
frequency than all other traffic. -
18Lesson Learned
On Tower Freq Cobra 12, Cleared for touch and
go
On Test Freq Ghost 2, Cleared for takeoff
T-38 Training Flight
F-16 Safety Chase
F-15 Photo Chase
YF-23 2
19- ROLL YF-23 TAKEOFF VIDEO HERE ?
20Lesson Learned
- Darryl always used to say
- EXPECT to have landing gear difficulties on any
first flight -
21- YF-23 Landing Gear Video Here?
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23Lesson Learned
- The First Flights not done til the test cards
are -
24The Apollo 13 Phenomenon
25YF-22 SHIP 230 OCT 1990Tom Morgenfeld
26YF-22 Ship 2 First Flight
- Off-the-shelf aint if its changed
- Scrupulous TEAM preparation
- First Flight CREWS
- The First Flights not done til the test cards
are.
27SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY
28How it Went(Dem/Val Stats)
YF-22 PAV-1 (GE YF120) 29 Sep to 28 Dec
90 Sorties 43 Hours52.8 PAV-2 (PW YF120) 30
Oct to 28 Dec 90 Sorties 31 Hours
38.8 Total Sorties 74 Hours 91.6
YF-23 PAV-1 (PW YF119) 27 Aug to 30 Nov
90 Sorties 34 Hours44.4 PAV-2 (GE YF120) 26
Oct to 15 Dec 90 Sorties 16 Hours
21.4 Total Sorties 50 Hours 65.8
29QUESTIONS?
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