Title: Careers in Internal Medicine or Whats an Internist Anyway
1Careers in Internal MedicineorWhats an
Internist Anyway?
2Topics.
- Review of Internal Medicine and General Internal
Medicine - The UofS program structure
- What makes a good internist?
- The UofS program status of program
- Career choices in general
- Getting the most out of clerkship
3Whats so great about IM?
- My journey
- In medical school
- Transient (very, very transient) inclination to
neurology - Loved surgery lots of hands on, high level of
responsibility on my JURSI rotation - Did NOT enjoy much about Internal Medicine
- Internship
- Straight surgical internship in London, Ontario
- Loved surgery rotations but also had a great
medicine preceptor with similar interestshmmm
maybe medicine isnt so bad after all. - Rotating internship
- Loved surgery rotations and did lots of advanced
hands on stuff - Medicine was ok too (1 great preceptor, 1 OK
preceptor) but I still liked the surgical stuff
best.
4My journey
- Africa
- Lots of surgery general, ortho, ophtho, gyne,
plastics, even the odd burr hole - After 3 ½ years. What could we do better?
- Not much more by way of surgery no ICU, no
ventilators, no infusion pumps, no monitors,
limited radiology lab resources etc - Lots of scope for improvement in our medical
management of patients with chronic diseases
(hypertension, asthma, heart failure, diabetes
etc.) - For me, the decision to train in Internal
Medicine was a very pragmatic one - Eventually, I came full circle back to my
undergrad / pre medical experience in
Microbiology (Infectious Diseases) - Hematology was a close second
- Still dont really have any affinity for some
areas of Internal Med! - No regrets!
5General Internal Medicine
- General internists handle the broad and
comprehensive spectrum of illnesses affecting
adults. ACP - Experts in diagnosis
- Experts in management chronic illness, complex
patients with multiple diagnoses - General internists are consultants
- See patients on referral from a primary care
physician or other specialist
6Dr. David Sackett
- When encountering patients with undifferentiated
or multi-system disease, general internists excel
at sorting out their illnesses and balancing
the management of multi-system disease. They are
particularly skilled in the evaluation and care
of such patients when they are acutely and
severely ill. This is in contrast to
subspecialists who, by focusing on deeper but
narrower aspects of single-system disease, are
more comfortable practicing in a rule-out mode,
and often are uncomfortable with sick patients
whose illnesses are multi-system or arise from
another system (e.g., undifferentiated shock).
7General Internal Medicine
- Office based / outpatient practice
- Hospital based practice
- Consultations
- Inpatient care for medical problems
- In many centres, patients are admitted under
family physicians, with consultation to the
internist very close working relationships
between the family physician and internist - For most mixture of inpatient and outpatient
medicine, acute / short term and chronic / long
term patients
8Internal Medicine GIM
- United States model
- Primary care
- Primarily office / or pure hospital
- Training
- 3 years
- Board eligible or Board certified
- Mixed Paediatrics / Internal Medicine programs or
Categorical programs - US general internists struggle with their
identity in contrast to family physicians.
- Canadian model
- Consultants
- Office / Hospital
- Training
- 4 years
- No such thing as Royal College exam eligible
status certified or not certified - No mixed programs
- Canadian general internists struggle with their
identity in comparison to IM subspecialists
9Internal Medicine subspecialties
- Core subspecialties
- Cardiology
- Critical care
- Endocrinology
- Gastroenterology
- Geriatrics
- Hematology
- Infectious diseases
- Medical Oncology
- Nephrology
- Respirology
- Rheumatology
- Less common subspecialties
- Allergy and Immunology
- Clinical Pharmacology
- Hospitalist Medicine
- Occupational medicine
- Palliative care
- Sports medicine
- Transfusion medicine
- Bioethics
- Medical informatics
- Clinical epidemiology
- Not all recognized by RCPSC
10Internal Medicine allied programs
- Dermatology 2 years of internal medicine
- Neurology 1 to 2 years of internal medicine
- Community Medicine 1 year of internal medicine
11Two views of GIM
- Not a subspecialty
- Forms the basis for all the Internal Medicine
subspecialties - All subspecialists are also internists though
some practice little outside their own
subspecialty field - Little recognition of a separate skills set /
body of knowledge - To date, the dual certification process
perpetuates this. (All subspecialists are first
certified as Internists)
- Subspecialty in its own right
- Core IM training is common to all Internists
- Post core training got GIM is unique, just as it
is with other subspecialties - Defined and distinct body of knowledge
- Many subspecialists are not functioning as
general internists (may do limited amount of non
subspecialty based IM, but not the true spectrum
of GIM)
12The World of Internal Medicine
Internal Medicine
Subspecialty Internal Medicine
General Internal
Medicine
13Internal Medicine GIM vs. SS
- Distinct body of knowledge
- Peri-operative medical management
- Medical disorders of pregnancy
- Multi-system medical disease
- GIM is not currently recognized as a subspecialty
but this will likely happen in your practice
lifetime. - Does it matter?
- Depends on your perspective.
- Does not have major effect on what general
internists can do / bill for. - Not a major income related issue.
14Why make GIM a discrete subspecialty?
- Recognize the discrete body of knowledge and
skills of the general internist. - Facilitate development of training programs that
robustly address this discrete body of knowledge. - Eliminate the differential status of internist
and subspecialist. - Establish an exam system that reflects Core / GIM
/ SS knowledge at appropriate points in time.
15Training in Internal Medicine
- Internal Medicine
- 3 years of core training PLUS
- 1 year of GIM
- 2 years of GIM
- 2 years of other subspecialty
- Core curriculum (first 3 years)
- 12 months of General Internal Medicine (office,
consults, CTU) - 24 months of subspecialty rotations and electives
- Rotations through the majority of subspecialty
areas - Cardiology and critical care mandatory
- Research
- Ambulatory care
16Training in IM at UofS
- PGY-1
- 5 to 7 months on CTU
- ER and Office based rotations
- Cardiology and neurology
- Selected subspecialty rotations (Geriatrics,
Endo, Rheum, Derm...) - PGY-2
- Subspecialty rotations
- Critical care
- Electives
- PGY-3
- CTU Senior
- Remaining subspecialty rotations
- Electives
17Training in IM at UofS
- Schedule is designed with purpose
- CTU Junior quickly gain experience in patient
assessment, recognition of the sick patient,
development of differential diagnosis, management
of common problems in a hierarchical setting with
backup available at all times. - Office rotation early exposure to non hospital
based practice - ER Promote strong collaboration skills between
ER and IM. - 2nd year Subspecialty rotations develop
consultancy skills, building on the framework of
first year experience - CTU senior deferred to third year focus on
teaching, supervision and organization of the
team. - 3rd year subspecialty rotations refine and
strengthen consultancy skills
18Examinations
Supspec exam
Cardiology exam
Internal medicine exam
everybody
GIM 1 year
GIM 2 years
Other SS 2 years
Cardiology 3 years
Core Internal Medicine (3 Years)
Everyone receives a Specialist Certificate as an
Internist Subspecialists also receive a
Certificate of Special Competence in the area of
their subspecialty.
19Why 1 vs. 2 years of GIM Training?
- Traditionally one additional year of training.
- As the distinct features of GIM have evolved, the
role for added training has become evident. - How is training structured?
- First year refines consultancy skills, focus on
GIM-specific body of knowledge - Medical problems of pregnancy
- Peri-operative medicine
- Complex, multisystem illness / multi disease
illness - Second year planned to meet the needs of the
trainee - Skills echo, stress testing, scopes
- Special area of focus Maternal Fetal medicine,
palliative care, epidemiology.. - Can be focused on skills for academic practice,
rural practice etc. - Offers great flexibility
20Why do people chose IM?
- Negative reasons
- They have poor eye-hand coordination
- They faint at the sight of blood
- They dont cope well with sick kids
- They dont look good in greens!
21Why do people chose IM?
- Positive reasons
- Great mentors
- Attracted to a specific subspecialty area
- Enjoy physiology / pathophysiology
- Enjoy breadth and versatility in terms of scope
of practice - Potential for long term relationships with some
patients without the need for long term
relationships with all!
- Enjoy sorting out complex problems / good
reasoning skills
22Distinguishing characteristics of the Internist
- The ability to be a diagnostician
- Strong clinical reasoning / critical thinking
skills - The ability to provide care of complex acute and
chronic problems - Strong knowledge skill base, strong
organizational skills - The ability to be a consultant for generalists,
specialists and subspecialist - Strong communication and team skills
- Curiosity
- Links between disease and pathophysiology
- Links between therapy and mechanism of action
Dr. Robert L. Wortmann
23Good Internists
- Listen to and understand the patients story
- Understand the context of the disease in the
individual patient - Apply science, and evidence based medicine within
the patients context - Engage patients in informed decision making /
collaborative care - Play well with others
24Questions to ask yourself
- Do I enjoy physical diagnosis, pharmacology,
physiology, pathogenesis? - Do I like solving problems and tackling
challenges? (Deductive reasoning and critical
thinking)
25Questions to ask yourself
- Can I interact well with all kinds of people and
maintain effective long term relationships? - Can I listen attentively to the patients story
and explore the context of the disease for the
patient? - Am I good in team settings? (as leader and member)
Another famous TV doctor.
26Lifestyle
- Internal medicine offers a wide range of
potential choices that affect the lifestyle you
can expect to have. - Income
- Working hours
- On call hours
- Type of work / practice
- Decisions that will affect lifestyle
- Subspecialty
- Practice type (solo, group, community, academic,
hospital) - Practice location
- Other activities (teaching, research,
administration etc.) - Expectations and systems are changing slowly
27Competitiveness for IM spots
- Huge increase in number of available positions in
last three years. - Does not mean you can afford to be complacent!
- Trends in career choices fluctuate significantly
year by year. - Number of positions change year by year.
- When matching dont try to play games rank
your choices according to what you really want. - Never, never, never rank a program you would not
be prepared to do! - Rank your top choice 1 even if you think you
wont get it.
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29Some general comments on choosing a specialty
(nothing specifically to do with IM)
30Career Choices in General
- Discover the field to which you are intangibly
drawn. - Try to identify and understand the reasons
- Types of problems
- Types of practice
- Types of patients
- Types of physicians
31Types of problems
- You dont have to love ALL the content area of a
given specialty to be successful in it, but you
need to enjoy and find stimulation in more than
one narrow aspect of it! - Therefore you need good understanding of the
breadth and scope of a discipline you are
considering - However as a physician you will have some
ability to focus your practice (within your
specialty choice) to varying degrees.
32Types of practice
- Procedural specialties
- Surgical specialties (surgery, OG, orthopedics,
ophthalmology etc) - Diagnostic specialties (pathology, radiology,
laboratory medicine) - Cognitive specialties (no pejorative implication
on other specialties intended) - Paediatrics, internal medicine, psychiatry,
neurology etc. - Within the cognitive specialties, there is great
variation in the degree of procedural involvement - Cardiology, gastroenterology, critical care vs.
- Infectious diseases, endocrinology
- If you are drawn to internal medicine but really
enjoy doing procedures, there is still plenty of
scope for you to find a fulfilling career in IM.
33Types of patients
- In every specialty there are certain types of
patients who try the patience of the physician. - Once you are in practice you will develop
strategies to manage these patients in a way that
enables you to provide good care and maintain
your equanimity. - But if there is something you really CANT stand,
be cautious about getting into a specialty in
which that makes up a significant portion of the
practice.
34Types of patients
- Children
- Adults
- Elderly
- Awake patients
- Asleep patients
- Deceased patients
- Short term patients (single visit)
- Intermediate term patients (multiple visits)
- Long term patients (followed for years)
35The influence of mentors
- Mentors are important in our education and
development as physicians. - We may find mentors in fields to which we are
intrinsically drawn. - We may be drawn to a field because of a mentor or
role model who works in that field. - It is important to consider what it is that
attracts us to a particular field - personal characteristics of the mentor.
- typical characteristics of physicians who chose
that field. - Important to avoid choosing a discipline on the
basis of a mentor - who may is actually be an outlier among his or
her colleagues! - rather than truly having an affinity to the
discipline.
36Career Choices
- Discover the field to which you are intangibly
drawn. - Try to identify the reasons
- Types of problems
- Types of practice
- Types of patients
- Types of physicians
- Knowing the reasons can help you consider other
options and assess the validity / strength of
your inclinations.
37How do I discover what I like?
- What do you most enjoy reading and studying in
class? - Caution be aware of
- Reading and doing is not the same
- The influence of good / not so good teachers
- What do you enjoy most in early clinical
experiences? - Explore the full spectrum of a discipline
- What you see from one physician or clinic may
only be a small part of the discipline - Try to work with several physicians in different
settings - Read (lots of online information, be aware of
differences between US and Canadian systems) - Ask questions
- Use electives and shadowing opportunities, be
creative in how you structure electives in key
areas so that you can get a broad exposure to the
discipline. - Be prepared to question initial inclinations (or
fixed decisions)
38What about quizzes and tests designed to help you
choose a discipline?
- Generic tests limited success, poor
differentiation between specialties - Strong Vocational Interest blank
- Holland based typology
- Myers Briggs personality types
- Medical aptitude tests limited scrutiny,
limited validity - Medical Specialty Preference Inventory
- Medical Specialty Aptitude Test
- Use with caution!
- Differences between disciplines tend to be small
compared with the variation in personality type
within disciplines. - Little scrutiny to link measures with career
success - Use might promote or maintain inappropriate /
undesirable stereotypes.
39What about medical specialty aptitude tests?
- University of Virginia MSATMy results..
- Hematology sure, OK I could do that (some of it
anyway) - Rheumatology Hmmm, not so sure
- Occupational med long shot
- Rad oncology no way on earth!
- Med oncology worse yet!
- Nephrology not on your life!
- PMR nope
- Pathology interesting for a year or two
maybe! - Infectious diseases number 15!!!! (Same rank as
endocrinology, nuclear med and GIM, none of which
I would really be keen to do) - ER and ortho (two close contenders for me, at
least at several points in my life) were 29 and
33 on my list.
40What about medical specialty aptitude tests?
- If the results resonate with you, you may be on
the right track. - If your response is Eeewww! or how in the
heck?, be careful about putting much emphasis
on the results. - Probably not much more helpful than
41BMJ
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43Some thoughts on being the best you can be and
how it will help you get where you want to go.
44Making the most of clerkship, whatever you want
to do
- Be professional
- Know the expectations and do your utmost to meet
/ even exceed them. - Be a good team member the educational team and
the whole care team - Be patient centered
- Be organized!
- Prioritize
- Keep track of things you need to do.
45Making the most of clerkship
- Use your study time well
- Read, reflect, review and challenge your
knowledge - Adopt good study skills and habits that fit will
with clerkship and they will serve you well into
residency. - Actively engage in team learning
- Discuss what you have learned from your reading.
- Ask good questions (but dont grandstand)!
- Speak up share your thoughts, try answering
questions. - Prepare to be wrong - nobody expects you to have
all the answers. - You learn more by venturing an answer and being
wrong than by not attempting to answer at all!
46Making the most of clerkship
- Be open to feedback
- Listen to what others tell you about your
performance, skills, strengths and weaknesses. - Solicit feedback
- Be honest
- Admit what you dont know, what you did not do
47Making the most of clerkship
- Take ownership of the patient
- Get to know them in depth (as persons, not just
diseases) - Take time to talk to them and their family
- Advocate for your patient
- Be prepared to discuss your patientswithout
notes - Be the first to know / report changes, new
results etc. - Monitor their progress actively even if there is
also a resident assigned to them - Identify good and bad role models.
- Learn from both good and bad role models!
- Identify the features that make good role models
good or bad ones bad so you can take deliberate
steps to develop good characteristics and avoid
bad ones.
48Making the most of clerkship
- Basic professional expectations
- Be on time
- Dress professionally
- Treat everyone with respect
- Identify yourself clearly, including your status
to patients, family and staff. - Answer pages promptly, if you are going to be
unavailable, keep the right people informed - Write legibly
- Communicate clearly
- Respect confidentiality
- Know your limits
49Decisions, decisions, decisions
- Keep in mind
- There is no SINGLE one right specialty for you
even if you think there is. - Your choices will determine much of what life
looks like for you when you are finished and in
practice. - Things can be changed over time
- Being clear on your priorities.and making your
decisions based on those priorities will help you
reach a best fit. - Life(style) is a trade-off not a have it all
situation!
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