Title: How Work Affects SSI and SSDI
1How Work Affects SSI and SSDI
Linda Landry Disability Law Center SSA Partners
Summit March 2008
23 Questions For Today
- How does work affect SSI or SSDI I am receiving?
- If I lose my SSI or SSDI, will I lose my Medicaid
or Medicare? - What can I do to avoid problems with Social
Security when I work?
3How Benefits Help The Transition to Work
- Income from benefits safety net
- While recovering or gaining skills needed for
work - While trying out work
- Benefits come with health care
- Medicaid
- Medicare
4What is SSI?
- SSI is a needs based benefit program.
- SSI has strict income and asset limits.
- SSI has strict immigration status rules.
- No work history needed for SSI.
- Most states provide Medicaid w/SSI.
5SSI and Work Effect of Wages ?
- Once SSI eligibility has been determined, the
effect of wages is as countable income that
reduces the SSI benefit, and not as Substantial
Gainful Activity (SGA) that terminates
eligibility.
6SSI Basics - Income
- Income anything you receive in cash or in kind
that you can use to meet your needs for food and
shelter. - Types of income
- Earned compensation for work.
- Unearned (e.g., SSDI, unemployment, alimony,
gifts). - In-kind (e.g., free shelter or food).
- Deemed from a spouse, parent, or sponsor.
- Income generally counted month of receipt.
7SSI and Work Effect of Wages
- For SSI, gross monthly wages count when
paid/received. 20 CFR 416.1111(a). - To compute countable monthly wages, deduct 65
plus ½ of the remainder from gross monthly wages.
20 CFR 416.1112(c)(5) (7). - SSI recipients may also deduct the 20 general
income disregard from wages, if not used on
unearned income. 20 CFR 416.1112(c)(4). - A good estimate of countable wages is ½ of gross
monthly wages.
8SSI and Work Effect of Wages Example 1
- Carmen receives 637 in SSI disability benefits
in 2008. - She takes a job paying 885 in gross wages per
month. - What is the effect on her SSI?
9SSI and Work Effect of Wages Example 1
- 400 of Carmens gross monthly wages is countable
885 85 (65 20) divided by 2 400. - Carmens SSI benefit will be 237.00 (637 - 400
237). - Her total monthly income will be 1122.
10SSI and Work Effect of Wages Example 2
- Joe receives 520 in SSDI and 137 in SSI
disability benefits per month in 2008. - He also takes a job paying 885 per month in
gross wages. - These wages make him SSI ineligible.
11SSI and Work Effect of Wages Example 2
- 520 SSDI - 20 500 countable SSDI
- 885 gross wages - 65 820.
- 820 divided by 2 410 countable wages.
- 500 410 910, more than the SSI amount
(137) for which Joe is eligible. - Joes totally monthly income is 1405.
- Will Joe remain eligible for Medicaid? (more on
this later)
12SSI Benefits and WorkSelf Employment Income
- SSA starts with net self employment to calculate
the amount of SSI the individual would otherwise
be eligible to receive. - 20 CFR 416.110(b), 416.1111(6).
13SSI Benefits and WorkIRWE Deductions
- Impairment Related Work Expenses (IRWEs) may be
deducted to determine countable gross monthly
wages and countable net self-employment income. - 20 CFR 416.1112
- IRWE deductions are in addition other permitted
earned income deductions
14SSI Benefits and WorkIRWE Deductions
- IRWEs are
- impairment related items and services
- needed in order to work
- out of pocket, i.e., paid by the individual and
not reimbursed by any source. - paid in a month when individual worked.
- 20 CFR 416.976
15IRWE Examples Attendant Care Services
- provided at work
- provided on the trip to and from work
- provided at home on work days to prepare for
work, including cooking and bathing after work.
16IRWE Examples Transportation Costs
- Expense must be required by the individuals
disability. E.g., individual cannot drive to work
and cannot take available public transportation
due to disability. - Vehicle modification costs.
- SSA approved mileage allowances
17IRWE Examples Equipment
- Wheelchair or other mobility device
- Protheses not primarily cosmetic
- Adaptive equipment and software for work and use
training - Communication equipment
- Environmental equipment
18IRWE Examples Residential Modifications
- Residential modifications , if employed outside
the home, to exterior of the home to permit
access - If self-employed, modifications to create an
accessible workspace
19IRWE ExamplesMedical Expenses
- Medications and other treatment to control or
improve a condition to permit work. - Doctor visits for conditions related to
disability. - Diagnostic procedures related to control,
evaluation or treatment.
20Other IRWE Examples
- Medical supplies
- Service animal expenses
- Support animal expenses
- Job coach expenses
21Rex Could be an IRWE
22SSI Example Effect of IRWES on Countable Wages
- Carmen receives 637 in SSI disability in 2008.
- She takes a job paying 885 in gross wages per
month. - She pays 60 per month for chiropractic
treatments and co-pays for medications she needs
in order to function at work.
23SSI Example Effect of IRWES on Countable Wages
- 380 of Carmens wages are countable
- 885 85 (65 20) 800
- 800 - 60 (IRWEs) 740
- 740 divided by 2 370 in countable earnings .
- Her SSI benefit will be 267 (637 - 370
267).
24SSI Benefits and WorkBWE Deductions
- Blind Work Expense (BWE) deductions are
available to SSI recipients eligible on the basis
of blindness. - BWEs are in addition to other permitted earned
income deductions. - 20 CFR 416.1112(c)(8).
25SSI Benefits and WorkBWE Deductions
- Examples of BWEs (POMS SI 00820.555)
- service animal expenses
- transportation to and from work
- taxes
- attendant care services
- visual aids
- translation of materials into Braille
- lunches
- professional association dues.
26Work SSI and SSI BenefitsStudent Earned Income
Deduction
- The student earned income deduction is for SSI
recipients who - are under age 22, and
- are regularly attending school.
- 20 CFR 416.1112(c)(3).
27Work SSI and SSI BenefitsStudent Earned Income
Deduction
- Regularly attending school means
- For grades 7-12, attending at least 12 hrs per
week - For college or vocational program, attending at
least 8 hrs per week. - 20 CFR 416.1861.
28SSI Benefits and Work Student Earned Income
Deduction
- In 2008, the student earned income deduction is
1550 per month, up to a maximum of 6240 per
year. - This amount is indexed to the yearly cost of
living increase. - This deduction is in addition other permitted
earned income deductions.
29Federal Educational Assistance
- All student financial assistance received under
Title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965, or
under BIA Student Assistance Programs, is
excluded from income and resources, regardless of
use. Title IV programs include Pell Grants
federal work study programs Upward Bound, and
others specified in POMS SI 00830.455.
30Other Educational Assistance
- any portion of a grant, scholarship, or
fellowship used for paying tuition, fees, or
other necessary education expenses is not
countable income. 20 CFR 416.1124(c)(3). - any grant scholarship, fellowship, or gift for
the cost of tuition or fees does not count as a
resource for nine months. 20 CFR 416.1210(u),
416.1250.
31Plan to Achieve Self-Support (PASS)
- Set aside income and resources to use to achieve
an occupational goal. - Occupational goal must be feasible.
- PASS must be in writing and include budget (
business plan if self-employment). - If PASS is approved by SSA followed, income and
resources in PASS dont count for SSI. 20 CFR
416.1112(c)(9), 416.1210(f).
32SSI and Medicaid
- Medicaid is a needsbased health coverage
program. - Most states provide Medicaid to SSI recipients.
- Check your state for state specific Medicaid
rules.
33Keeping MassHealth While Working Loss of SSI
- Will I lose Medicaid coverage if I make too much
money to receive SSI benefits, even with all the
deductions I can take? - Probably not you should be eligible for 1619b
Medicaid and maybe for Medicaid Buy-in program.
34SSI Benefits and Work1619b Medicaid
- 1619b Medicaid provides continued Medicaid for
SSI recipients with earnings too high to be
eligible for an SSI cash payment. - These individuals can be deemed eligible for
MassHealth - if they continue to meet all other
SSI eligibility criteria, including the asset
limit, AND if they meet the Medicaid Test.
35SSI Benefits and Work1619b Medicaid Test
- The individual must
- have been eligible for SSI for at least 1 prior
month - remain medically disabled
- need MassHealth in order to work and
- have insufficient income to replace Medicaid and
SSI.
36SSI Benefits and Work1619b Medicaid
- Individuals can move seamlessly between SSI cash
eligibility and 1619b Medicaid when the ability
to work and wages fluctuate as long as they
continue to meet the disability standard and
remain assets eligible for SSI.
37SSI Benefits and Work1619b Medicaid
- The bad news is having to continue to meet the
SSI asset test which can be hard while working.
- A state Medicaid buy-in program may be an
alternative option.
38SSI Benefits and WorkMedicaid Buy-In
- The Ticket to Work Act, P.L. 106-170 (1999)
allowed states the option of expanding Medicaid
coverage through a buy-in for disabled working
individuals. - A majority of states have established Medicaid
buy-in programs - See http//cms.hhs.gov/twwiia
39SSI Benefits and WorkMedicaid Buy-In
- Income and resource eligibility and out of pocket
costs vary from state to state in Medicaid Buy-In
programs. - These programs can be a good alternative to 1619b
for some. - But, client must be counseled on the effects of
cutting ties with the SSI program.
40How Do I Avoid Problems withSSI When I Work?
- Be ready
- Understand the SSI income counting rules and
their likely impact on your SSI benefit - Provide SSA with verifications for all income
deductions for which you think you are eligible - Seek information from WIPA programs
41How Do I Avoid Problems with SSI When I Work?
- Report
- Report to SSA anything that might affect your SSI
eligibility, e.g., new job, change in pay, bonus,
loss of job, etc. - Report within 10 days of the end of the month in
which the change occurs ASAP is better. - Report in person at your local SSA office if at
all possible.
42How Do I Avoid Problems withSSI When I Work?
- Keep records/copies
- of everything you provide to SSA
- of your notices
- of when, where to whom you spoke provided
records - of reports to SSA.
43SSDI and Work
44What is SSDI(Social Security Disability
Insurance)?
- SSDI is a Social Security insurance program that
pays a monthly cash benefit to people who are - Disabled same definition of disability as with
SSI (for adults), AND - Insured worked and earned enough Social
Security credits by paying FICA taxes. For most
adults, this means working for about 5 of the
last 10 years before becoming disabled. - SSDI has no income or asset limits.
45Earning Credits to Become Insured for SSDI
- You earn 1 credit for every 1000 earned (in
2007). 4000 earned 4 credits. - You can earn a maximum of 4 credits/year.
- Must pay FICA taxes. No credits for under the
table work. - Special SSDI Rule for Young Adults
- To be insured for SSDI, adults under 24 years old
only need to earn 6 credits in the 3 years before
they become disabled.
46More About SSDI
- The SSDI benefit amount depends on how much you
earned. Average 978, but could be much lower
or higher. Maximum is 2185/month n 2008. - Certain dependents of the wage earner may be
eligible for benefits on SSDI recipients wage
record. - SSDI recipients receive Medicare after 24 months
of eligibility (Recipients with ALS do not have
to wait 24 months.) SSDI recipients may also
qualify for Medicaid, but need to apply for it.
47How Does Work Affect SSDI ?
The rules for SSDI and work are completely
different than for SSI. Its like being on
another planet.
48SSDI Work Incentive Scheme
9 Month Trial Work Period
36 Month Extended Period Of Eligibility
The Cliff Benefit Termination if over SGA
49What I Need to Know
- Have I completed my 9-month Trial Work Period?
When? - If yes, when does/did my 3-year Extended Period
of Eligibility end? - Are my countable earnings above the Substantial
Gainful Activity level?
50Trial Work Period20 CFR 404.1592
- 9 service months in any 60-month period
- Keep your benefits no matter how much you earn as
long as you remain medically disabled - 1 Trial Work Period per period of disability
51Trial Work Period
- You only use a trial work month if you perform
services, meaning - Earn more than 670 gross wages per month in 2008
(this amount changes every year) - If self-employed, earn more than 670/month gross
or work more than 80 hours/month - Not just training or therapy
- No deductions for IRWEs no averaging earnings
during TWP
52Trial Work Period Example 1
- Victor went back to work for the first time after
getting on SSDI. His gross earnings were - 400 in January 2008
- 680 in February 2008
- 1000 in May 2008
- 500 in June 2008
- How many trial work months did he use?
- Should he get his SSDI for these months?
53Trial Work Period Example 2
- Marias gross earnings went over the trial work
month services limit in the following months - 1. June 2001
- 2. January 2002
- 3. February 2002
- 4. March 2002
- 5. April 2002
- 6. May 2002
- 7. June 2002
- 8. August 2007
- 9. September 2007
- 10. October 2007
- 11. November 2007
- What month of her TWP is she in as of November
2007?
54Example 2 The Answer
- TWP 1 - June 2001
- TWP 2 - January 2002
- TWP 3 - February 2002
- TWP 4 - March 2002
- TWP 5 - April 2002
- TWP 6 - May 2002
- TWP 7 - June 2002
- TWP 1 - August 2007 (60-mo. Lookback to Aug.
2002) - TWP 2 September 2007
- TWP 3 - October 2007
- TWP 4 - November 2007
55The Extended Period of Eligibility An All or
Nothing Deal
- 36 months starting month after the 9th trial work
month. - Get SSDI in months where countable earnings are
the SGA level, as long as remain medically
disabled. - Get no SSDI in months earnings are at or over SGA
level. - 20 CFR 404.1592a.
56Cessation and Grace Period
- 1st month of SGA after the Trial Work Period is
called the cessation month. - Despite SGA, SSDI benefits are payable for the
cessation month and the following 2 months.
57EPE Example
- The 9th month of Victors Trial Work Period was
December 2005. When does his EPE run? - Answer January 2006 through December 2008.
58Is it SGA?
- Work must be substantial and gainful.
- In 2008, work presumed to be SGA if gross
countable earnings are 940/month or higher
(1550/month or higher if SSDI for blindness). - Three additional SGA tests for self-employed,
based on worth of work.
59How to Count Earnings for SSDI
- Earnings count when they are earned, not when
paycheck is received, unlike SSI. - Count gross earnings unless self-employed.
- Only pay for work activity counts
- Not pay for sick or vacation time
- Only bonus pay if based on productivity
- Earnings put into pre-tax Cafeteria and
retirement plans count - POMS DI 10505.010.
60Is It SGA? Deductions Available Throughout the
EPE
- IRWEs (slides 14 20)
- Subsidies. 20 CFR 404.1574(a)
- Employer pays more than actual value of services
performed ( amount or reduction) - Special Conditions. 20 CFR 404.1573
- E.g., close and continuous supervision work done
by job coach frequent rest periods - Unincurred Business Expenses (self-employment
only) e.g., free help. 20 CFR 404.1575.
61Is it SGA? Not if its an Unsuccessful Work
Attempt (UWA
- UWA. 20 CFR 404.1574(c)
- Yes - If work ended or reduced below SGA within
3 months due to the impairment or removal of
special conditions related to the impairment. - Maybe If work ended or went below SGA after 3
months and before 6 months. Look at absences,
work performance, special conditions, etc. - No If work lasted more than 6 months.
- UWA does not apply after first month of SGA after
end of trial work period (cessation).
62Is it SGA? Averaging Earnings
- Average over entire work period unless
- Significant change in work patterns or earnings,
or - Change in SGA level (e.g., yearly COLA)
- No averaging earnings after first month of SGA
after end of trial work period (cessation). - 20 CFR 404.1574a, 404.1592a
63SGA Example
- Elsa is in her EPE. Her gross earnings in
January 2008 were 1000. - In January 2008 she paid for the following
impairment related work expenses - 25 for prescriptions
- 75 for therapy
- 50 for her support dog Max
- Are her countable earnings over SGA for January?
64The Answer
- No. Its not SGA (940 or more in gross in
earnings in 2008). - IRWEs 25 75 50 150
- Gross income 1000 150 IRWEs
- 850 countable income
65After the EPE The Cliff20 CFR 404.1592a
- SSDI eligibility ends with the first SGA after
the end of the EPE. - IRWEs, subsidies and special conditions
deductions apply after the EPE. - Averaging and Unsuccessful Work Attempt do not
apply after the EPE, if SGA during EPE . - If SSDI terminated due to SGA after EPE, no right
to continuing benefits during appeal, unlike
medical Continuing Disability Review.
66SGA and SSDI on the Basis of Blindness
- Under age 55, SGA applies the same as for those
eligible on the basis of disability. - The only difference is that the presumed SGA
standard is higher -1550 in gross monthly wages
in 2008. - 20 CFR 404.1586(a)(3).
67SGA and SSDI on the Basis of Blindness
- At 55 and older, SGA does not result in loss of
SSDI, unless the work shows the ability to use
skills and abilities comparable to those in
gainful activity done with some regularity and
over a substantial period of time prior to age 55
or becoming blind, whichever is later. 20 CFR
404.1586(a)(4).
68Expedited Reinstatement20 CFR 404.1592b, 416.999
- New Application OR
- Expedited Reinstatement of Benefits (SSDI and
SSI) - If benefits terminated due to earnings
- Unable to perform SGA in month of application
- Disabled due to the same or related impairments
as those for which previously on benefits and - Request reinstatement within 60 months from date
of termination. - Up to 6 months of provisional benefits
available while eligibility is decided.
69Extended MedicarePOMS DI 55001.B.2.
- Medicare continues during EPE even if not
eligible for SSDI cash. - If SSDI terminates after EPE due to SGA, Medicare
continues for up to 93 months after the twp, if
individuals remains medically eligible. - Must pay Medicare Part B premiums quarterly if no
SSDI to deduct from.
70How To Avoid Problems withSSDI When Working
- Be Ready
- Understand the Trial Work Period, the EPE, SGA,
and how Social Security counts earnings for SSDI. - Keep records of the amount earned each month, and
of deductions such as IRWEs and subsidies. - Know if youve finished your trial work period
where you are in your EPE if your EPE has ended. - Seek information from a WIPA program.
71How Do To Avoid Problems withSSDI When Working
- Report. Report. Report.
- Report to SSA when you go back to work, your
earnings, and changes in jobs or earnings. - Report within 10 days of the end of the month in
which the change occurs. The sooner the better. - Report in person at your local SSA office if at
all possible, and get and keep a receipt.
72How Do To Avoid Problems withSSDI When Working
- Verify and Record
- Provide SSA with verification of all earnings and
all income deductions you think you are eligible
for. - Keeps copies of everything you give to SSA and a
keep a record of when, where to whom you gave
it.
73Questions About SSDI and Work?
- Consult with WIPA program staff.
- Visit SSAs website at www.socialsecurity.gov
- Read Social Securitys Red Book on Work
Incentives.