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Title: Tcl/Tk 2002


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Tcl/Tk 2002
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Ten Years of Rapid Development
  • Mark Roseman
  • University of Calgary
  • TeamWave Software Ltd.
  • Sonexis Inc.

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Welcome to AOL Digital City
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Yeah ok, maybe not.
Them
Us (not to scale)
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Benefit from the Pain of Others
  • Tcl experience papers
  • Range of systems
  • Growing systems
  • Development practices
  • Soft issues

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In a nutshell
  • Tcl/Tk good.
  • Even for bigger systems.
  • You can convince others of that.
  • But it really helps if you know what youre
    doing!

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Todays Talk
  • Development phases
  • Prototyping (GroupKit)
  • Desktop apps (TeamRooms/TeamWave Workplace)
  • Web apps (various)
  • Growing pains / solutions
  • Tcl in the Hot Seat
  • Integration, Configurability, Reliability, Scale
  • Strengths, Misconceptions, Roadblocks

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Collaborative Systems
  • Groupware
  • Conferencing
  • Highly interactive
  • Networking
  • Usability
  • People issues

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When did you discover Tcl/Tk?
  • 1992 _at_ U Calgary
  • Prototypes - TK / BYO
  • oops, better finish that damn thesis!
  • Tcl-DP

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GroupKit
  • Prototyping shared applications
  • Internal/external use
  • Lots of experimentation

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Tcl/Tk Benefits
  • Learning curve
  • Higher level programming faster
  • Rich widget set
  • Cross-platform

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Typical Prototyping Usage
  • Prototypes, small apps
  • Small number of developers, even novices
  • Limited time
  • Problems solvable more quickly and easily by
    individuals small groups.

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TeamRooms
  • Real app
  • Rooms
  • Tools
  • Client-server
  • Cross-platform

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TeamWave Workplace
  • Spin-off company
  • 2-3 developers
  • Rapid changes
  • lt 50k loc

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So far so good
  • Ad hoc development practices
  • Coding style
  • Modularity
  • Testing
  • Some bleeding-edge gotchas
  • Some performance issues

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Onwards!
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Starting to Grow
  • Modest financing
  • 5-10 developers
  • Moving to the web
  • Users in education, virtual communities
  • Download a deterrent

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Rewrite in Java?
  • Keep code base (time to market)
  • Client-side Java risky
  • Still a small team, tight schedules
  • Rapid change

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Proxy Tk
Users Workstation
Server
Tcl Application Code
Tcl Application Code
Tk API
Tk API
Tk Library
Proxy Tk Java Applet
Proxy Tk Library
OS Windowing System
AWT
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Get all that?
  • Application code moves to server
  • Still uses Tk API
  • Tk implementation replaced by Proxy Tk
  • Messages sent to Java applet on client
  • Events sent from Java back to server

Tcl Application Code
Tk API
Proxy Tk Java Applet
Proxy Tk Library
AWT
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Web Site Management
  • Application Service Provider model
  • Manage accounts, rooms, scheduling
  • Originally cgi.tcl
  • Later AOLserver
  • Centralized Metakit datastore

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Growing Pains
  • Growing code base
  • 90k loc Tcl, 35k loc C, 10k loc Java
  • Ramping up new developers
  • Tcl learning curve still okay
  • Finding integration points
  • Coding styles
  • Breakage
  • Not exactly a shock

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Software Engineering with Tcl?
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Development PracticesCoding Style
  • Lots of advantages to using one
  • Pick anything
  • Tcl Engineering Manual / Style Guide
  • Tcl code base as example

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Development PracticesModularity
  • Namespaces, objects,
  • Follow commands like file, string
  • Toplevel parsing routine (entry point)
  • Dispatch to other internal procedures
  • Naming, variable access, etc.

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Development PracticesAutomated Testing
  • Tcl excels here
  • Benefits
  • Tcltest
  • Single language
  • Other automation

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Development PracticesSummary
  • Traditional approaches work well in Tcl
  • This will slow you down (a bit)
  • Better than the alternative!

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Tcl in the Hot Seat!
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Obvious Strengths
  • Higher level programming
  • Cross platform
  • Easy licensing

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Common Misconceptions
  • Tcl is unstructured
  • Tcl is hard to hire for
  • Tcl is unsupported

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Larger Systems Issues
  • Integration
  • Configurability
  • Reliability
  • Performance and Scalability

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Integration
  • Glue
  • Extensions
  • COM
  • Web services

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Configurability
  • Adjust for different customers
  • Feature sets
  • Extensions
  • Appearance changes
  • Branding

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Reliability
  • AOLserver ?
  • Two language solution
  • Application features in Tcl
  • Core engine in C
  • Multiple process model
  • Easy in Tcl
  • Fault tolerant

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Performance and Scalability
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Performance and Scalability
  • AOLserver ? ? ? ? ? ?
  • Monitoring performance
  • Add telemetry
  • Scalability test harness
  • Migration to C
  • Multiple processes (vs. threads)

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Scalability Results
  • Approximately 1000 users
  • 2500 Tcl interpreters!

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Many legal bills later
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Bottom Line
  • Tcl worked for us
  • From prototypes to robust/scalable commercial
    apps
  • With Tcl, could take this work much further on
    fewer resources than if using conventional
    development tools.

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Pitfalls
  • Interactive web applications
  • Web site development
  • Tcl best practices?
  • Image problem?

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Still Great to be a Tcl Developer
  • Core Tcl/Tk
  • Tcllib
  • Activestate
  • Tclhttpd
  • Metakit
  • Tclkit/Starkit
  • Wiki

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Shameless Plug
  • CourseForum
  • Wiki discussion for education
  • Multiple areas, users, versions, tracking
  • Ease of use
  • Easy deployment
  • Uses a little bitof Tcl

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Grab a Beta Version _at_ www.courseforum.com
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Summary
Tcl/Tk good.
  • Even for bigger systems.
  • You can convince others of that.
  • But it really helps if you know what youre
    doing!

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