Title: Adult Prodigals
1Adult Prodigals
2Opps!
3ExternalViewpoint
External Viewpoint See Gospel through
prisms View Depends on the prism
The Mormon Culture
The Church
The Family
The Savior The Gospel
4ConversionViewpoint
Divine Viewpoint See Things through
Divine Eyes
The Mormon Culture
The Church
The Family
The Savior The Gospel
The Bishop
5Elder Holland
- For the Church at large, we have so many things
to associate in our minds with the visionary
ministry of President Gordon B. Hinckley,
including (perhaps especially) the vast expansion
of temples and temple building. - But I dare say for those of us on this rostrum,
it is likely that we will remember him at least
as emphatically for his determination to retain
in permanent activity the converts who join this
Church. No modern prophet has addressed this
issue more directly nor expected more from us in
seeing that it happen. - With a twinkle in his eye and a hand smacking the
table in front of him, he said to the Twelve
recently,
Brethren, when my life is finished and
the final services
are concluding, I am
going to rise up as I go by, look each
of you in
the eye, and say, How are we
doing on retention?
- April 2004 Conference
6The Big Questions
- Why do adults leave the church in the first
place? - What will it take to help them back?
71st GroupShallow Rooted
- Went through the motions
- Sorta-Testamony
- Knows the church answers
- May have unanswered questions
- Never really converted
- Always on the outside
- Leaves during adversity
- Easily offended
- Life becomes hard
8Finally Lisa
92nd GroupThe World-ized.
- World looks more fun
- Church rules are boring
- Church rules are hard
- World-bonded
- Allure of Pop Culture
- Desire to be accepted
10One members insight
- I became aware of an
awful truth, a truth
that found me
with
such force I was
physically weakened by it. In a moment of
perfect clarity, I was aware that the world had
become my godworldly knowledge, worldly pursuits
and worldly things. - These were the things that occupied all my
thoughts and my time. I did not love the things
of God. I did not love the scriptures, I did not
love to be in Church, and I did not long to be in
the Temple.
113rd Group The Betrayed
- Once believed
- Believe theyve been lied to
- Family
- Ward leaders
- Church History
12Covenants and Betrayal
- Covenants/Promises
- Mix of faith, trust and love
- Promises made and kept
- As a result, trust (faith) grows
- Additional sacrifice,
- based on promises
- Betrayal
- Mix of anger, fear and pride
- Believe that promises were made, not kept
- Believe that trust was violated
- Refusal To Sacrifice (Becomes Self Focused)
Lucifers Game Plan
Those You Trusted, Betrayed You
Follow Those Who Will Betray You
134th Group The Contrarian
- Smartest guy in the room
- Must be non-conventional
- Will not accept anything
on faith - when they are learned they
- Think they are wise
- They would rather be right than happy
14Revealing interchange
- One individual, critically attacking the Church,
was asked - What would you say if God himself came down and
told you that the Mormon church was true? - He responded
- Id tell God he was a liar.
15Bro Stephen Robinson
- The difficulty for many Saints seems to be
in believing that Satan could lie skillfully
enough to fool even them if they let go of
the rod. ("Moi, deceived? Oh come now, be
serious! The merely elect perhaps,
but me? Never! You see, I'm . . . well, I'm
special.") - Believing themselves to be
"special"especially intelligent or especially
talented or especially intuitivethey insist upon
their ability to detect the truth on their own,
and then, of course, they are lost. For Satan
does lie, and he's very, very good at it. - Some Saints are particularly vulnerable to lies
told by scholars, others are most vulnerable to
lies told by reporters, and still others seem
most vulnerable to lies told by friends or social
peers. - Following Christ The Parable of the Divers
and More Good News ( 1995)
16What can we do?
- 1- First, fortify yourself (and your family)
spiritually by putting on the whole armor of God
17Whole armor?
DC 3 Yet you should have been faithful and he
would have extended his arm and supported you
against all the fiery darts of the adversary
and he would have been with you in every time
of trouble.
- Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be
able to stand against the wiles of the devil. - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places. - Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God,
that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day,
and having done all, to stand. - Stand therefore, having your loins girt
about with truth, and having on the
breastplate of righteousness - And your feet shod with the preparation of the
gospel of peace - Above all, taking the shield of faith,
wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the
fiery darts of the wicked. - And take the helmet of salvation, and the
sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God
Caution Be clear about what you know And what
you dont know Your family member may be
more intelligent than you are.
Also, Do not argue, BUT Do not apoligize for truth
18Important Questions
- When you are praying for them, what are you
praying about? - Ask yourself
- Does the Lord love the rebellious?
- Does He want them back?
- Does He know what they need in order to return?
- Does He know what experiences will soften their
heart? - Does He know the future?
- If all these are true
- How much of your prayers are spent in telling God
what needs to happen (which He already knows) - And now much is spent finding out what He wants
YOU to do?
19LDS 12 Step group for wives of pornography addicts
- Powerless, as defined in Step 1 means that
despite our very best efforts, there is nothing
we can personally do to directly cause our loved
one to cease their addiction (rebellion). - We come to understand that their choices do not
indicate we have failed as loved ones. - (PASG Draft Copy)
20President Lorenzo Snow
- God has fulfilled His promises to us, and our
prospects are grand and glorious. . . . In
the next life we will have our wives, and our
sons and daughters. If we do not get them all
at once, we will have them at some time, for
every knee shall bow and every tongue shall
confess that Jesus is the Christ. - You that are mourning about your children
straying away will have your sons and your
daughters. If you succeed in passing through
these trials and afflictions and receive a
resurrection, you will, by the power of the
Priesthood, work and labor, as the Son of God
has, until you get all your sons and daughters in
the path of exaltation and glory. - This is just as sure as that the sun rose this
morning over yonder mountains. Therefore, mourn
not because all your sons and daughters do not
follow in the path that you have marked out to
them, or give heed to your counsels. Inasmuch as
we succeed in securing eternal glory, and stand
as saviors, and as kings and priests to our God,
we will save our posterity. - (The Teachings of Lorenzo Snow, 195.
21Elder Bednar