Title: What are we going to do about Emma
1What are we going to do about Emma?
- Dr Mark Rosenthal
- Royal Brompton Hospital
- London
2Born 4/10/90
- CF diagnosed age 4/12 (Feb 1991), because of
cough and FTT from age 2/52.- had first ivs at
that time. - Wt 3rd centile, ht 25 to 50th
- ?F508/?F508
- RBH care from March 1991 onwards.
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3March 1991 age 5 months
4Born 4/10/90
- Cough/wheeze was persisting symptom
- On nebulised pulmicort/ketotifen
- June 1991 well.
- Readmitted July 1991 for ivs Already on nebulised
pulmicort/atrovent/ventolin
5Ages 14-20 months
- Dec1991 wt 50th centile , abdomen always pot
bellied. - June1992 Mother had chicken pox emma had
acyclovir. - Persistently pot bellied
- Taking up to 95 Creon 25000 per day to control
stools other GIT tests all negative - August 1992 1st isolation of Pseudomonas. Started
on Gentamicin and Colomycin nebulisers
6The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- Symptoms of wheezing and coughing now taking
- centre stage - IgE 25 (lt49) Aug 1992
- First course of prednisolone May 1993
- 4th admission June 1993 IgE 47, Aspergillus Rast
Pos, Precipitins Neg - 5th admission Jan 1994 (age 3 y) Clinically
hyperinflated. 1st presence of clubbing
7The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- 6th admission April 1994 Marked clubbing, IgE
125, Aspergillus precipitins neg - All cough, SOB and wheezing
- Began DNAse Sept 1994 very good clinical
result
8Age 30 months
9The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- 3 further course of prednisolone plus inhaled
pulmicort to 1600mcg/day - Oct 1995 IgE 442 (from 84 in 1994)
10Height and Weight z scores
11Would You
- A) Think the decline in height z score is an
inevitable consequence of CF - B) Think that this is largely related to
inhaled/oral steroid therapy - C) Send her to GOS
12Height and Weight z scores
13The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- Dec 1995 (age 4) Referrred to endocrinologists
for concerns re height steroid related no other
hormonal reason - Remains very wheezy and now pulmicort to
3000mcg/day nebulised
14The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- April 1996 7th admission prolonged course of
prednisolone for 6 months. IgE1055 - July 1996 Home ivs Ig E 500
- Dec1996 still on prednisolone 6mg/day Ig E 593.
- Aspergillus precipitins strongly positive.
Started on long term azithromycin - April 1997 still on Prednisolone 3mg alternate
days - Intermittant DIOS all investigations negative.
15Nov 1996 Age 6
16The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- October 1997 (Age 6) still cant be got off
prednisolone/dexamethasone - Bronchoscopy.
17What did the bronchoscopy show
- A) Marked inflammation and thick inspisated
sputum - B) Tracheobronchomalacia to account for her
wheezing - C) mild inflammation and trivial sputum
18The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- Bronchoscopy no sputum no inflammation no
malacia - Nov 1997 no real sputum and no growth for 1 year.
Cushingoid, clubbed. - Dec1997 stop pulmicort, start flixotide!
- Prednisone stopped July 1998 (28 months)
- Fastest runner in her class!
- Started on itraconazole
19The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- Admitted Nov 1998 ivs
- February 1999 (age 8) IgE 5648, Asp rast 101.
- Prednisolone restarted. ivs.
- Continuing Itraconazole (and azithromycin and
DNAse Flixotide 1mg bd). Coughing up brown
plugs - Prednisolone continued for 6 months even needing
1mg alternate days
20The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- August 1999 - very symptomatic Ig E 6500 FEV1
69 (recent best is 80).
21The course of IgE
Prednisolone
Azithromycin
Itraconazole
Lobectomy
DNAse
22Aug 1999 age 8.8
23Aug 1999 age 9
24Would You (bearing in mind it is 1999).
- A) start a steroid sparing therapy
- B) start iv liposomal amphotericin
- C) send her to GOS
25The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- Started on ivs 6/52 liposomal amphotericin
- Fantastic response FEV1 122. IgE 3078.
- 6/52 later FEV1 56! Begin nebulised
amphotericin/ 4/52 later FEV1 89
26The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- February 2000 (age 9) declining again. Liver
function mildly deranged Hep ABC neg. CMV IgM
ve. Steroids restarted. - March 2000 still not right repeat iv liposomal
amphotericin (liver function still abnormal
therefore only 1mg/kg for 2 weeks) - June 2000 still the same IgE 1349. Asp
precipitins 3 lines/2 lines 3rd course of
liposomal amphotericin no real benefit
27The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- July 2000. Restart dexamethasone (less fluid
retention). - Still pot bellied
28July 2000. Age 9.5
29Would You.
- A) start a steroid sparing agent
- B) perform a lobectomy
- C) send her to GOS
30The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- October 2000 right middle lobectomy.
Histology..
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33The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- October 2000 right middle lobectomy. Histology
Numerous aspergillus hyphae no invasion - VERY well!
- March 2001 stop steroids
- August 2001 return of symptoms. More ivs Ig E
1300 (500 March 2001) - Oct 2001 Ig E 2122
34May 2001 Age 10.5, 6/12 post lobectomy
35The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- Remember
- On DNAse since 1994
- On Azithromycin since 1996
- On Itraconazole since 1997
- On steroids on and off for 6 years
- 3 courses of iv liposomal amphotericin
- 3 bronchoscopies 1997, 2000, 2001
- Right middle lobectomy Oct 2000
- 37 course of iv antibiotics
36The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- Nov 2001 4th course of iv liposomal amphotericin
plus methyl prednisolone 500mg/m2/ day for 3 days - November 2001 began iv immunoglobulin therapy
monthly for 6 months -No benefit - April 2002 pulsed methyl prednisolone again
severe joint pains
37The course of IgE
1st iv amphotericin
4th Ampho Ig rx
Prednisolone
Azithromycin
Itraconazole
Lobectomy
DNAse
38Dec 2002, age 12.1
39Would you.
- A) Start a steroid sparing agent
- B) Start a new antifungal agent voriconazole
- C) Do both A and B
40The Torture of Emmas wheezing
- October 2002 (11 years) trial of azathiaprine
(IgE 2000) side effects severe headaches -
stopped - December 2002 Trial of voriconazole and
methotrexate - Feb 2003 admitted for DIOS requiring laparotomy
and enterotomy - May 2003 not too bad on MTX 12.5mg once a week
and voriconazole. - 2004 6 courses of ivs.
- Dec 2004 MTX stopped (NOT HELPING), still on
voriconazole (and Azithromycin 8 years) - Jan - May 2005 2 more courses of ivs
41The course of IgE
1st iv amphotericin
MTX voriconzole
4th Ampho Ig rx
Prednisolone
Azithromycin
Itraconazole
Lobectomy
MTX stopped
DNAse
42Formal Lung Function
43Height and Weight z scores
To Endocrinologist
44March 2005. Aged 14.5
45As we are in the same place as we were in 1996,
have we.
- A) Fallen into the trap of a genuinely ill child
plus over-anxious family and over-treated - B) Saved her from dying very prematurely by
ultra-aggressive therapy - C) Failed to send her to GOS
46You know.
- Im really not sure.
- THE END
47Age 2
48Oct 1995 age 5
October 1995. Age 5
49Age 5.5 April 1996
50July 1997. Age 6.5
51Age 8.3. Feb 99
52BRONCHIOLE WITH INFLAMMATION AND ASPERGILLUS
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