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Title: Scheduling


1
Scheduling Resource ManagementWorking Group
  • Jennifer Schopf Bill Nitzberg Uwe
    Schwiegelshohn, co-chairs
  • www.cs.nwu.edu/jms/sched-wg/
  • sched-wg_at_gridforum.org
  • Global Grid Forum 1
  • Amsterdam, The Netherlands
  • March, 2001

2
High-level OverviewSolve Grid Resource
Management
  • Who? -- Developers
  • What? -- Agreements / standards
  • Capabilities, general protocols, APIs
  • Why? -- Interoperability
  • Reserving, allocating, using resources
  • Managing resources (owners pt-of-view)
  • Support co-scheduling diverse resources
  • Enable "better" "use of" resources

3
Charter
  • Look at what is done today, gather
    requirements
  • ...refining protocols, interactions, etc.
  • ...work to standardize APIs

4
Process
  • Review working document (lt 5 minutes)
  • Focus on understanding the document (revisions)
    rather than correcting it
  • Gather discussion items during/after review
  • Prioritize discuss each item
  • Next steps (last 5 minutes)
  • Revised documents posted to web site within 2
    weeks.

5
Plans for GGF-1
  • Monday 2-330
  • SuperScheduling 10 steps (30 mins)
  • Token definition (60 mins)
  • information proper nouns, semantics,
    representation
  • Monday 4-530
  • Advance reservations
  • Tuesday 4-540
  • New topics - give J,B or U a heads up, bring your
    5 min. description with you, to be followed by 5
    min discussion
  • Wednesday 11-1230
  • Dictionary Group BOF (our tokens are part of this)

6
Since GF-5
  • Teleconferences (every other week, starting in
    Jan.)
  • Mailing list
  • sched-wg_at_gridforum.org
  • signup by sending mail to majordomo_at_gridforum.org
  • Web site
  • http//www.gridforum.org
  • http//www.cs.nwu.edu/jms/sched-wg

7
Ten Steps for Superscheduling
  • Notes

8
Ten Steps for Superscheduling
  • Goal List the basic steps and capabilities
    involved in resource reservation, acquisition,
    and use

9
GGF1 Notes -- Doc 8
  • Suggestion create web template to help with
    gathering examples
  • Requirements definition
  • perhaps should go before step 1
  • could be broken into 2 parts (requirements for
    everytime its run vs. requirements for this
    particular run)
  • not clear this includes dynamic requirements,
    e.g., I want 10 cpus on hostA or 20 cpus on
    hostB -- are there any requirements that arent
    known until run time?
  • Document doesnt address dynamic adaptation
  • Uwe, Anand, Fraucesco Prelz will draft
  • Iterative suggestion via Mary Thomas Keith
    Jackson

10
10 Steps Notes, cont.
  • Setup Cleanup
  • Staging has both a setup cleanup
  • Doc currently only refers to stage out under
    cleanup, need to include other stuff (e.g.,
    breaking down an environment)
  • Steps connotes a temporal ordering, perhaps
    change the title to 10 Things

11
Next step for 10 steps
  • Small wording changes (steps implies ordering)
  • Comments from group on flow-picture waiting
  • Will be bumped into donecategory when these are
    agreed on

12
Tokens
  • There is general token discussion as part of the
    dictionary group to take place weds
  • Within scheduling we will also need a group - to
    be talked about tomorrow

13
Attributes for Communication about Scheduling
Instances
  • Notes

14
Purpose of this document
  • Purpose of this document to list some important
    features of lower level scheduler
  • Higher level scheduler may ask - Heres an
    attribute - which lower level scheduler has it?
  • Define a set of lower level attributes for
    matchmaking by higher level scheduler (?)
  • Define a common set of attributes that every
    lower level scheduler should provide

15
  • The set of attributes that a lower level
    scheduler should supply to a higher level
    scheduler
  • capabilities, not interfaces
  • capabilities of the scheduler, NOT the resource
  • end goal - NOT a classification of schedulers
  • attributes will have values - yes, no, number
  • list of questions that a higher level scheduler
    asks of a lower level scheduler

16
Example
  • Can I assign a node/resource exclusively using
    your lower level scheduler?

17
Agreement
  • Document is useful
  • Is existing set correct? Are they important?
    Are the defs correct? Do we need to add more?

18
Are the current list ok?
  • List is all necessary, but doesnt cover minimal
    set

19
Things to add
  • BW resv/QoS - do you have the ability to let me
    reserve the bandwidth?
  • Can you tell me when a job will start?
  • (What about monitoring or performance
    prediction?)
  • (what about interface to resources)
  • Can you have confidence info about resource
    access?
  • Are you authorized to talk to me?

20
This document
  • This is a list of tokens, not an API
  • One possible next step - turn it into an API

21
Bill Suggests
  • Change focus to Im about to write a high level
    scheduler - what are the attributes that a lower
    level scheduler has (now) that I can take
    advantage of
  • (this would address things like- how semantics
    about a resource ties in to these queries to a
    scheduler)

22
Appendix
  • Appendix of terms that should not be addressed in
    this document, those things with an explicit
    decision to ignore
  • Maybe have a better overview of things to divide
    up the territory - road map document

23
Next Step
  • Add new attributes to document
  • Send suggestions to uwe-
  • uwe.schwiegelshohn_at_uni-dortmund.de
  • Clarify focus of document
  • Telecon to discuss this soon

24
Advance Reservation API
  • notes

25
Why an API and not a protocol?
  • An API is what the C programmer sees
  • A protocol is what the network sees
  • Not yet advanced enough for a protocol, so weve
    started by talking about an API

26
  • Two-phase thing- desire to have soft vs hard resv
  • Soft resv-
  • airline reservation held for 24 hours,
  • fancy restaurants dont let you reserve without
    calling back, must have 2 phase commit
  • policy decision
  • Current 2 phase commit, user specifies when
    commit must be made, but this may be specified by
    scheduler as well
  • Maybe claim call should return yes/no/come back
    to me at this time

27
  • How probable is need for fancy restaurant
    reservation?
  • Since on the fly we think we can extend the API
    to handle this situation, this comment taken
    back...

28
terminology
  • What about changing terminology - some confusion
    between bind, claim, commit, confirm
  • Perhaps add a sub-section for common definitions
  • Maybe define them as X1, X2 and X3 instead of
    using common terms that carry baggage

29
Do we need a 2-phase commit call in this API (for
a single resource)
  • Globus project says they need a keep alive
    feature

30
Evaluation of completeness
  • Do you have scenarios to use to evaluate this
    API?
  • we want to support co-scheduling yada yadaAdd
    1-3 scenarios (simple) to this document
  • Reservations on 4 CPUs on 2 machines

31
  • Does this fit other schedulers?
  • Epema says yes for prun (delft, nl)
  • yes again

32
Is the API generic enough?
  • Current match to bw brokers
  • What about mass storage systems?
  • there is a disk resource in one impl. of this API
  • what about the need for a specific path name?
  • User asks I need 8 gig of fast storage, would
    be nice if this could be returned without just a
    callback
  • Policy field could be used for some of this info
    perhaps

33
Appendix addition- to be addressed in the future
(?)
  • A reservation system might be able to revoke a
    portion of the reservation, and the user should
    be able to decide which portion gets taken away
    (?) (return dialog to resolve conflicts)
  • This may be more common with storage
  • This (only?) happens when you overbook
  • Call-back specified more clearly could do this
  • The API covers this case although a more
    convenient addition to the API to cover this
    might be recommended in the future

34
Semantics Question
  • Purpose of an API is to write a general program
    - independent of resource type, but because of
    semantics (esp with bind) this may not make
    sense, so does it make sense to have resource
    type as a parameter instead of just having a
    separate call for a resource type?
  • If semantics of bind are diff enough based on rsc
    type, then maybe they should be separated out
    into diff calls?
  • This is just a naming issue, so lets not deal
    with it

35
  • How do call backs get handled?
  • Different thread/write program to handle
    interrupts right now (with one implementation)

36
  • add info on feedback in response to the bind
  • does that go here or in another API
  • in existing CPU systems this is not part of the
    adv resv system
  • This might make resv useless in some cases if it
    isnt specified

37
What needs to happen next?
  • 1 sent API vs Protocol
  • Perhaps add a sub-section for common definitions
    (claim, bind, etc)
  • Completeness scenarios
  • Specify semantics of calls a bit clearer
  • add info on feedback in response to the bind
    (does that go here or in another API)
  • Appendix (ignore now) additions -
  • no fancy restaurant resv. thing
  • mass storage example

38
When is it done?
  • Make the minor cosmetic changes, and this
    document is done
  • Implementation(s) are implemented
  • Alain and Volker are working on one currently
  • other volunteers?
  • Well check with Charlie for more procedural stuff

39
Scheduling Resource ManagementWorking Group
  • Jennifer Schopf Bill Nitzberg Uwe
    Schwiegelshohn, co-chairs
  • www.cs.nwu.edu/jms/sched-wg/
  • sched-wg_at_gridforum.org
  • Global Grid Forum 1
  • Amsterdam, The Netherlands
  • March, 2001

40
High-level OverviewSolve Grid Resource
Management
  • Who? -- Developers
  • What? -- Agreements / standards
  • Capabilities, general protocols, APIs
  • Why? -- Interoperability
  • Reserving, allocating, using resources
  • Managing resources (owners pt-of-view)
  • Support co-scheduling diverse resources
  • Enable "better" "use of" resources

41
Charter
  • Look at what is done today, gather
    requirements
  • ...refining protocols, interactions, etc.
  • ...work to standardize APIs

42
Since GF-5
  • Teleconferences (every other week, starting in
    Jan.)
  • Mailing list
  • sched-wg_at_gridforum.org
  • signup by sending mail to majordomo_at_gridforum.org
  • Web site
  • http//www.gridforum.org
  • http//www.cs.nwu.edu/jms/sched-wg

43
Plans for GGF-1
  • Monday 2-330
  • SuperScheduling 10 steps (30 mins)
  • Token definition (60 mins)
  • information proper nouns, semantics,
    representation
  • Monday 4-530
  • Advance reservations
  • Tuesday 4-540
  • New topics - give J,B or U a heads up, bring your
    5 min. description with you, to be followed by 5
    min discussion
  • Wednesday 11-1230
  • Dictionary Group BOF (our tokens are part of this)

44
Ten Steps for Superscheduling Summary
  • Goal List the basic steps and capabilities
    involved in resource reservation, acquisition,
    and use
  • Next Steps
  • Small wording changes (steps implies ordering)
  • Comments from group on flow-picture waiting
  • Will be bumped into donecategory when these are
    agreed on

45
Attributes for Communication about Scheduling
Instances
  • GoalDefine a set of attributes that a higher
    level scheduler can ask of a lower-level
    scheduler
  • Next Steps
  • Clarify focus of document
  • Add new attributes to document
  • Telecon to discuss this soon

46
Advance Reservation API
  • Why an API and not a protocol?
  • Not yet advanced enough for a protocol, so weve
    started by talking about an API
  • Next steps
  • Minor editorial adjustments
  • Completeness scenarios
  • Add Appendix (ignore now items)
  • Move to done before next GGF

47
Advance Reservation Protocol
  • Allow advance reservations ebtween systems (NOT
    and API)
  • Proposed by Volker Sander, Keith Jackson, Karl
    cz, John Karpovich

48
Todays Meeting - New Topics
49
Tokens
  • We need a list of tokens and definitions to
    coordinate with the dictionary group
  • (BOF tomorrow at 11am)
  • This list has been started online already
  • www.sdsc.edu/mthomas/GF/terms/
    sched-terms.cgi
  • We propose drafting a document to move this
    effort forward

50
Current words
  • account dispatch process advance reservation fair
    share processor allocation job quality of
    services application load queues application
    scheduler load balancing quota application
    software machine scheduler reservation bandwidth
    memory resource batch meta-schedulers scheduler
    batching node scheduling co-allocation
    partitioning staging cpu perfect load balance
    user disk priority user account

51
Architecture?
  • Why would we want one?
  • To give the discussion a framework
  • We punted - low hanging fruit was enough
  • Which schedulers support adv resv?

52
  • What about annotating 10 steps with other WG
    interactions?
  • Document proposal to be sent to WG

53
Resource models
  • Resource management and resource specification
    language
  • might be part of the protocol
  • MDS schema
  • not just terms, but values/hierarchy
  • what information is important

54
  • Is there a need for a document to describe what a
    user expects from a scheduling system?
  • Who is the user?
  • Will there always be a sw layer between the user
    and the scheduler?
  • Do we need to address user involvement or not?
  • What about economic models? - see accounting

55
  • Do we need a paper to address user involvement?
  • Karl cz says - everyone will need to do it, so we
    probably dont need a paper
  • what about doing control flow?
  • is this a sched-wg topic of a user interface
    issue?
  • Who is the user?
  • What about delegation?
  • Maybe not yet...

56
Scheduling WG Summary
  • Three documents discussed
  • Ten Actions for SuperScheduling, Arch/Framework,
    J. Schopf
  • basically done, only minor edits suggested
  • Lower Level Scheduling Attributes,
    Syntax/Language, U. Schwiegelshohn
  • in progress, refocusing, to be discussed in
    telecon
  • Advance Reservation API, API, A. Roy, V. Sander
  • basically done, only minor edits suggested
  • New areas suggested for attention
  • Advance reservation Protocol, Protocol, A. Roy,
    V. Sander, K. Czajkowski, J. Karpovich
  • Scheduling Dictionary, Syntax/Language, J. Schopf
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