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Title: WG3 Management, Communication, and Education


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WG3- Management, Communication, and Education
  • Facilitators Paul Avery and Jim Whitmore
  • Scribe Howard Gordon
  • Fermilab January 12, 2004

2
  • --------------------------------------------------
    ----We didn't get to this one. So let me be
    concrete with my personal question.Assuming user
    XXX submits to OSG, and some or all ofhis job
    fails. Who does she turn to?Who does the triage
    for understanding what the problem is?How much
    latency should there be before the user
    receivesan explanation?Is resubmission the only
    recourse the user has?

3
Goals of OSG
  • Enable any scientific need to productively use
    the OSG not just a single experiment
  • Connection of universities and labs in a
    community
  • Driven by IT organizations which serve the
    science
  • Allows all applications to proceed robustly
  • Run II, BaBar, bTeV, LHC, Biology, RHIC,
    Astrophysics, etc.
  • A Virtual Site rather than just a Virtual
    Organization
  • What agreements are needed to enable this?
  • Is the Virtual Site mission oriented?
  • Build on existing Grid efforts
  • We see the successful Grid as the only way to
    achieve our science goals

4
LHC may be ahead of other grid efforts
  • Need a broad base in order to add resources
  • Too specific an implementation will not benefit
    other communities
  • Currently we do not support multiple processor
    applications
  • Easier to articulate the needs of a single
    science program!
  • Will this apply to all science problems
  • Standards based implies trailing rather than
    leading

5
Lessons from Grid 3
  • Thought of as a small step but still learned
    things that were not anticipated
  • There was a lot of technology and integration
    work behind the scenes
  • The next steps increasing the scale, and
    functionality would lead towards OSG
  • Want to be seen as providing a leading edge grid
    at least in some dimensions

6
Governance of OSG
  • Coming together of a diversity of groups that
    hopefully have a common vision
  • What kind of Reporting structure?
  • Can not completely separate technology
  • In the private sector there can be product
    secrets but they can benefit by pooling certain
    aspects
  • Separate technology from requirements so having
    the agility to move from one space to another
  • Analogy of a market economy
  • Need a strategy for test-beds
  • We are not ready now to write the MOUs to provide
    the resources to be provided
  • Make sure this is seen as a leading edge
    enterprise then other leading scientists will
    be attracted

7
Virtual Organizations
  • People coming together need to be organized in
    order to do their work together
  • A HEP collaboration is a good model but this does
    not apply to the Virtual Site
  • This is partly because U.S. national labs do not
    have a history of working coherently
  • How do we get the autonomous organizations to
    federate?

8
Education and Outreach
  • How to involve students in developing the OSG?
  • Undergraduates via NSF REU or DOE programs
  • Build on QuarkNet experience
  • How can we help educators/teachers use the OSG?
  • Making it simple so that this group can
    participate
  • Professional training required
  • Users of the OSG need to be trained also!
  • Process of transferring knowledge from the
    research arena to the general public/educational
    system
  • Bill Frascella (NSF/ESIE) how do the educators
    tell the researchers how to use the grid!
    Education communities study how people learn so
    they can contribute to our work.
  • Minorities and under-represented groups
  • Remote participants
  • In each case, capture the excitement of all these
    groups joining the community the OSG
  • Set aside some percentage of the total resources
    (facilities) for these groups perhaps 4 for
    student projects subject to security concerns
  • Encourage the creation of grid portals by
    students?

9
Communications/Public Outreach
  • Failure of releasing a press release for GRID
    2003 is a wake-up call
  • Need a Strategic Plan for Communicating about the
    GRID- Judy Jackson has a DRAFT
  • She has thought this out and has a lot of good
    ideas
  • Strategy, Actions, One-page message, Web site
    like for the Linear Collider example
  • E.g. Develop World Year of Physics 2005 Grid
    outreach plan
  • We could benefit from the grid communication Web
    page on Interactions.org

10
How to make sure this is successful with the
funding agencies?
  • Need a transparent and effective management
    structure
  • Could follow a research project organization
  • The set of stakeholders is being broadened

11
Next Steps
  • Using what we did today for the next step
  • Consensus that we should move forward!
  • We are building a set of functional prototypes
  • Since last August GRID 2003, endorsement of
    this concept by many groups
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