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Background
  • RadioNet FP6 runs until 31/12/08, 20 months
  • proposal for RadioNet FP7 is being prepared
  • must be submitted by December 2007?
  • delayed from original plan by a number of months
  • RadioNet FP7 can be an I3 with same instruments
  • And maybe a bit larger envelope (more money)
  • And new (relaxed?) rules to spend it
  • 3-4 JRAs like ALBUS, 5-6 potential areas
    identified
  • pre-selection assigned people to expertise areas
    (Huib for software)
  • in an awkwardly enforced collaboration scheme
  • to produce an initial document
  • to be selected for the actual proposal writing
    stage
  • Depends all on the assignment of overall
    coordinator
  • selection committee appointed
  • expect need to write initial proposal in
    September
  • which is a very bad time

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Some general remarks
Software development deserves a place in RadioNet
FP7
  • It is the interface to the user and his/her
    science
  • And it is still not up to speed with the
    instruments available
  • Proposal must focus on the existing
    infrastructure
  • Can have importance for new instruments (LOFAR,
    SKA)
  • Advantage relevant across many RadioNet
    facilities eEVN, eMERLIN, single dishes, WSRT,
    APERTIF, mm-VLBI network, even ALMA
  • But generally speaking these JRAs are modest
    size
  • Compared to the investments in AIPS, AIPS,
    CASA, Miriad
  • And they force distributed effort, often with
    temporary staff
  • Having done ALBUS in FP6 has some consequences
  • Some of the proposed topics are not so new
  • Even though we cannot claim everything is solved
  • Like to keep some of the efforts alive
  • And the expertise around
  • We have only just started

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What we have learned from ALBUS
  • We can do software projects
  • Even when they are necessarily distributed
    between partners
  • They can be fun, despite the boundary conditions
  • Some (few) of the rules enforce some
    professionalism
  • There is enough potential in RadioNet partners
  • Software can reach the user community
    (eventually)
  • But for success I think it is important that
  • Overall aim is focused, realistic and concrete
  • We take incremental steps to reach intermediate
    functionality
  • Workpackages match local ambitions and are
    self-contained
  • EC funded positions come in 2 or 3 manyear
    chunks, not smaller
  • Some of this concern is lifted in FP7
  • Have a strong link to scientists with a direct
    application in mind
  • e.g. students who need it for their project
  • There is a PI that has time for the management
    overhead
  • was Huib, proposed to be Cormac

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Our user community in the ALMA/LOFAR age
  • Starting point
  • Control the loop gain on their clean run
  • Do some special tricks or non-standard processing
  • Or for teaching and instruction, train new
    experts
  • Data from classical radio instruments
  • Upgraded considerably (eVLBI, eMERLIN, eVLA)
  • New telescopes with new software tools
  • And different, pipelined data products, often
    calibrated and imaged
  • ALMA, LOFAR, SKA pathfinders
  • Two scenarios
  • use the new software for traditional cm data?
  • or the old software to access the new
    instruments?

There will be radio-astronomers in 2010 who want
to take control over calibration imaging
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Things we know for sure
  • Some people still want to use AIPS (or Miriad)
  • Because they are good, conservative scientists
  • Who trust the embedded algorithms
  • Or are just busy and not committed to learn
    something new
  • AIPS cannot survive with current data access
    methods
  • Python is the interface for more than one package
  • We like to continue ParselTongue support (AIPS,
    maybe Miriad)
  • We hope to have done some high level
    parallelization
  • One could develop a high level user interface
  • ALMA ( eVLA) will be using casa
  • And LOFAR software is based on same environment
  • Hardware capabilities will scale up (SKA)
  • Improves to processing capacity
  • As well as the data volumes
  • I believe there is no limit to what people would
    like to do if the resources were available

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Where we want to go
Port existing algorithms to the casa
era Preparing the cm user community for SKA
  • Port traditional algorithms to casa/LOFAR
    environment
  • Focus on global fringe fitting, important for all
    long baselines
  • And improve the algorithm if possible
  • This is a way to continue support for recent (or
    upcoming) ALBUS algorithms
  • Interested to extend wide field to mosaicing and
    maybe focal plane arrays
  • Build on the ParselTongue layer
  • Run various packages from one interface
  • Extend the user interface, context sensitive, GUI
  • Task parallelization and workflow management
  • Work towards interoperability
  • Investigate access methods Obit/AIPS vs casa MS
  • Compare calibration model

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Workpackages
  • ParselTongue
  • Common invocation methods AIPS/casa/LOFAR/(Miriad)
  • Interactive user interfaces
  • Distributed computing
  • High level/task parallelization
  • Transforming ALBUS work to casa/LOFAR
  • Mosaicing, maybe focal plane arrays
  • Global fringe fitting
  • Algorithm research
  • Common implementation, more than one platform
  • Interoperability
  • Exercises in data access methods
  • AIPS methods on MS structures
  • Calibration model transformations

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How does this fit?
  • Participants contacted and positive
  • ALBUS group ASTRON/WSRT, JBO, MPIfR, JIVE
  • ALMA group NRAO, IRAM, ESO
  • LOFAR
  • This looks like 2 x ALBUS in size
  • 40 man-years of which 20 contributed
  • Could have 6-8 partners
  • Including some in non-EC countries
  • Amounts to 1.6 2.0 M
  • Several scaled down options possible
  • But then also scale down number of partners
  • Overlap with some of the other software proposals
  • ATNF on parallelization and focal plane arrays
  • Oxford and Cambridge on parallelization
  • Can we also agree on the form of the software
  • But then there was also a proposal for astrometry
    software
  • Very sympathetic, but quite disjoint

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What is needed?
  • Need a project summary by September
  • Additional ideas to Cormac and Huib
  • Order your work-package now!
  • We need to think about new partners
  • Are there more links with potential new
    contributors?
  • Get the support from your local director
  • Make friends with the coordinator
  • Include prospective coordinator interests
  • Make ALBUS (appear to be) a success
  • In an international context, need to push
    ParselTongue
  • Maybe get AIPS/NRAO on board for VLA community
  • Progress reports including pretty pictures!
  • Publications including pretty pictures!
  • Presentations including pretty pictures!
  • Give credit to RadioNet in your acknowledgements
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