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Title: Happy Times except for advising


1
Happy Times (except for advising)
2
Problems withDiscreet Categorization
The GMAT ESSAY book T. Boone
ETHICAL
UNETHICAL
At what point do you leave these categories? Is
99 ethical okay?
3
Goya, 1799(Spanish Inquisition 1478 1834)
4
Judgment and ill-defined topics everywhereeven
in statistics
  • Flipping thumbtacks point-side up
  • what matters in terms of thumb-tack shape?
  • Flipping quartersthe odds of heads.
  • This weeks Advising Moment
  • ISQS 5349, Regression Analysis (unfortunately,
    you cant take it without ISQS 5347).

5
Charades and Subprime
  • SIVs, CDOs, etc.
  • WSJ Oct. 31st Finally some stuff that makes
    sense (to me).
  • There is still unquantified risk (in my opinion)

6
As an Auditor
  • Think about incentives
  • Propose and Test theories (you have limited time
    to dig aroundso dig in a smart way).
  • Example todays stock market decline Exxons
    quarterly earnings.
  • All will be well if you propose reasonable
    theories (managers and partners like
    thatseniorssometimes not so much but think
    about their incentives).

7
Week 9 Assignment (due next weekbring it to
class).
  • Get to know your company by reading through some
    public documents (bring this to class in your
    mind)dont look at anything older than 2003.
  • Document (and hand in) interesting things about
    your company that you would like to compare to
    competitors.
  • All preliminary evidence suggesting the CEO knew
    otherwise and briefly explain why your evidence
    is useful for this purpose.

8
Sassy Assignments D0 2
  • Following directions and meeting deadlines is
    relatively important in Public Accounting my
    incentives for you were bad.
  • If this were a normal assignment, the content
    redo chance would arrive via email by Monday
    (if necessary).
  • Clarifying the normal grading systemno email
    v or v
  • Given the W8 instructions, why are emails
    unnecessary?

9
Things we will work on
  • economics vs. reporting how these concepts
    arent necessarily independent (beyond the
    obvious sense)e.g., AGAIN yesterdays WSJ
    articlesand T Boone.
  • capitalizing annuitiesone thing I got from my
    grad. finance class (Klaus T.) Momentum for ACCT
    5314?
  • Comingat least in partnext week.
  • Today is next weekso lets see some new stuff.

10
The Dividend Discount Model
  • The fundamental equity valuation model any
    theoretical valuation model must be reconcilable
    to the DDM, or else it is conceptually flawed
    (Barker 2001).

8
P0 ? Dt 1 kt
t 1
where k expect rate of return on equity
investment D dividends P share price
11
Reconciling models
  • Dividend yield model assumptions (1) constant
    dividends and (2) constant cost of capital.
  • Formula P0 (D1 k)
  • Dividend growth model lifts the constant
    dividend assumption, replaced by constant growth.
  • Formula P0 (D1 k g)

12
Tie to Week 3
  • P0 (D1 k g)
  • How have corporate dividend payments changed over
    time?
  • P0 Earnings ? k - g From W3!
  • This is the PE ratio story we saw in W3 (when
    highlighting the importance of growth).

13
Subtle Differences Are Important
  • P0 (D1 k g)
  • P0 Earnings ? k - g
  • Dividends per the DDM, mean all payments to
    shareholders.
  • Does Earnings mean the same thing?
  • How does this difference affect the value of
    balance sheet assets?

14
Usable Valuation Metrics
  • PE ratio like metrics
  • rules of thumb income by 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7
    or ???
  • ROE ratio like metrics
  • profit investment and everyone has a tweak
    to the numerator and denominator.

15
Consistent Measurement Helps With Comparison
16
In Some Form, Analysts Look at
  • P0 Earnings ? k - g
  • Have a strategy to affect the formula
  • Blockbuster (a simple company)
  • proposed merger fell through (Hollywood)
  • investment in movie link is not working out

17
Using Formulas and Herding Cats
  • Many, if not most, analysts have a limited
    understanding of accounting rules.
  • Most analysts look at some type of valuation
    model before taking a position on a companywhen
    a cat gets out of the herd, the analyst (and
    other investors) pay attention.

18
Simple vs. Not-so-simple companies
  • Blockbuster is simple
  • Homebuilding is simple
  • Do you understand your company?
  • Did the accounting records help you?
  • You know more about accounting than at least 75
    of Wall Street analysts
  • Tech companies arent so simple

19
Its all mysticthere are no objective
answersat least not in here
Shouldnt we have some answers?
20
Chris Bau.s Final Exam
  • Can you bring something unique to the class that
    would benefit everyone?
  • Maybemaybe not.

21
Simple vs. Not-so-simple companies
  • Blockbuster is simple
  • Homebuilding is simple
  • Do you understand your company?
  • Did the accounting records help you?
  • You know more about accounting than at least 75
    of Wall Street analysts
  • Tech companies arent so simple

22
Q2s Mexico, Egypt, Nepal, Romania
  • eBay and Amazon electronic commerce companies or
    retailing companies?
  • Where is the growth?
  • There is audit risk in growth
  • Why would the electronic vs. retailing
    categorization matter?
  • How complicated are these companies compared w/
    Blockbuster?

23
Faith in Leaders?
  • Amazon trades at 60 times expected earnings four
    times more than WalMartbut both companies have
    23 gross margins. (Oct. 13-14 WSJ)
  • Investors see somethingand growth is a big part
    of the storybut how clear is that story?

24
Faith in Leaders?
  • Banging the Buffett drum
  • Do things that make sense to you
  • What will happen to Berkshire Hathaway Stock when
    Buffett dies?

25
Q2s Mexico, Egypt, Nepal, Romania
  • Some / many are betting (via call options) that
    Googles stock price will increase 25 in the
    next two months.
  • Gphone vs. Iphone.
  • Do you know enough to invest? If you get really
    interested in stuff like this, come back some day
    tell everyone thats why audit is better than
    tax!
  • Is 700 per share scary?
  • Shares were below 500 in mid-August.
  • New information or a bunch of uncertainty?

26
Q2s Mexico, Egypt, Nepal, Romania
  • Poor Yahoo!
  • NEW strategy
  • be the starting point for consumer search
  • be a must buy for advertisers
  • have open technology for developers
  • Oct. 17 WSJ Profit down 4.6, shares up 9.
  • Yahoo had 3rd Q revenue of 1.3B.

27
Q2s Mexico, Egypt, Nepal, Romania
  • Apples recurring product price-drop growth
    prospects.
  • Managing customer expectations reputation, price
    discrimination the cool factor.
  • How do you measure the effect of these vague
    concepts?
  • Growth via the Mac bought because my wife liked
    the look its great but do I know enough to
    invest?

28
Week 10 Assignment?
  • Get to know your company by reading through some
    public documents (bring this to class in your
    mind)dont look at anything older than 2003.
  • Document (and hand in) interesting things about
    your company that you would like to compare to
    competitors.
  • All preliminary evidence suggesting the CEO knew
    otherwise and briefly explain why your evidence
    is useful for this purpose.
  • IS ANYTHING A MUST?
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