Title: Seed collection Can we improve the unimproved seeds?
1Seed collectionCan we improve the unimproved
seeds?
2Considerations are on a link which can be reached
from my web http//www-genfys.slu.se/staff/dagl/F
rotakt/Utredning.htm
Only collections of Swedish Scots pine and Norway
spruce considered
Plants in Sweden dominated by Norway spruce and
Scots pine. Less than 0.5 decideous trees and
around 3 other conifers Very few clones, less
than a permille are Norway spruce cuttings!
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5Seeds from Swedish unimproved stands give raise
to 1/4 of Swedish plants! In addition import of
stand seeds (mainly spruce from Belarus and
Baltic states) 10-15.
6Seed consumption is predicted to increase
- Reforestation after the storms Gudrun and Per
increase the plant need! - Direct seeding of Scots pine raises
- Forest production becames a higher priority and
thus possible more planting
7- Good spruce seed harvests the last years because
of weather add some seeds, but this is not
sustainable - Radical decrease of need of unimproved stand
seeds first when the third batch of seed orchards
become mature around 2025.
8 A forest reproductive material must be derived
from an approved basic material to be marketed.
It can be a seed orchard, a seed collection stand
or a seed collection area. Information is kept on
record by Skogsstyrelsen, currently Lennart
Ackzell is responsible.
EU category EU category EU category
Svenska English Example
Känd härkomst Source identified Åmsele300 000 ha pine
Beståndsutvalt Selected
Individutvalt Qualified Skaholma Pine seed orchard
Testat Tested Alvik Pine seed orchard
9For Scots pine and Norway spruce there are no
approved seed collection stands except a few seed
orchards, which were not up to standards for
qualified. Till a few years ago there were
exceptions and transition extempts, but now the
rule is in full force. Cones and seeds can not
be collected without the permission of the
owner. Most cones are harvested on felled trees
after final felling. The annual time window for
cone collection is rather short. In August the
seeds are not ripe and in December where is snow.
10- Only some years are suitable. Cone set and seed
maturation varies. A rough estimation can be made
from metheorological records, based on that it is
decided if further actions are needed
(identification of candidate stands and analyse
of cone samples) - Seed maturation is often unsatisfactory for pine
in cold areas. Insect damage can be a large
problem in spruce. Many of these factors can be
evaluated only on seed and cone samples, and
there is little time for decisions between
analyses and execution. - Seed dealers without forest buy often cones from
the private person arranging for the timber
harvest on the market. - The large companies prefer to collect cones on
their on land - they can coordinate the activity of cone
collector and timber harvest - need not agreement with land owner
- But sometimes no object in approved seed
collection areas is not available. They can apply
for making it permitted and this is likely to be
given, but it is a process which takes time and
administrative effort. The benefit is seen as
doubtful it is just seen as a disturbance. That
was initiating this review of the system.
11- The approvement procedure takes some time and
administrative effort, and someone must pay for
it. - We know more now
- The authorities experience difficulties with the
current system. - The natural forests are reduced and the
increase in planted forests make the origin and
the pollen source more uncertain.
12The idea with seed collection areas is
historically and mentally anchored
- Tree provenances were known since some centuries.
Provenances are different! - Bad Scots pine seed imports from Germany caused
ban on foreign provenances on state land and seed
taxes around 1880. - Mendel and race biology were important concepts
in the end of the 30ies when forest tree breeding
started. - Anyone knows that heredity matters, good trees
certainly get good progeny!!! - To get anything else than suitable areas for seed
collection takes lots of time and effort if at
all possible
13- Bertil Lindqvist wrote the first textbook about
forest tree breeding 1946. It give much emphasize
on seed collection areas, thus expeditions and
procedures to identify good forests. - There was no alternative.
- Spruce was imported and when it could be
important that Swedes actually looked at stands
(authoctonity, size, homogeniety, records etc.).
We got accustomed to inspections. - The last major inspections were done 25 years
ago, if someone want this extended they probably
have to pay for it.
14The areas of seed collection areas as a function
of latitude and altitude Spruce to the left and
pine to the right There is no very northern
spruce. For pine it is desirable to move
southward and the seed maturation in the north is
bad. There are few seed collection areas under
100 m
15Seed collection areas for pine (orange) and
spruce (green)
16Approved seed collection areas (millions of hectar) Approved seed collection areas (millions of hectar) Approved seed collection areas (millions of hectar) Approved seed collection areas (millions of hectar) Approved seed collection areas (millions of hectar)
Pine Spruce Forest area in Sweden Percent
8.5 3.8 21.2 58
Most forest area is approved as seed collection
area! The rule is not very limiting. Some of the
area not approved has for administrative reasons
never been considered. Finland has approved all
their area.
17No scientific support for advantage of selected
seed tree stand or seed collection area
- There are to my knowledge - no experiments
which clearly demonstrate that a gain is
associated to collecting seeds from a seed
collection area of relevance to the Swedish pine
and spruce situation. - Many non-genetic factors affect the appearance of
a stand, so it is difficult to imagine that
genetic factors should dominate or be visible,
even if they were rather important.
18Is where a genetic variation among
autotochtoneous stands?
- Yes!!
- There is a large scaled provenance variation,
trees from a more southern latitude survive worse
but grow better (if unharmed). This is mainly
caused by selection which act a long time over a
large area (trees which utilize more of the
vegetation period grow better but get more
injuries, the nature finds a reasonable
balance). This is utilized in provenance
transfers. The question now is variation beyond
this large scaled continuous clinal variation. - The genetic remainder (not explained by the known
provenance pattern, where latitude is important)
may be guessed from many experiments to be in the
magnitude 6 in value and 1- latitude in
optimal adaptation. - It is logic that factors like different selection
under different conditions and genetic drift and
different migration patterns give raise to
limited differences among stands of pine and
spruce. However this variation of distances 100
km is unlikely to be extremely large, as it is
likely to be an important gene migration by
pollen reducing local variations. - This benefit in value is probably considerable,
but how to see it? I suggest area phenotype
difference will often not be able to give more
than a few per mille in gain. Perhaps stand
within area also give some per mille and part of
that is probably obtained anyway, as I guess
directly bad looking stands (infected, forking
etc) are often avoided. - A considerable gain of the choice of stand is
only possible after unrealistic tests. Some of
the benefit in adaptation may perhaps be utilized
using short term tests, actually sometimes annual
harvests of seed orchards are tested for
adaptation (freezing test). A test for adaptation
may change the area of use, and may therefore be
done on already collected seeds. Or the less
hardy seeds could be used for seeding in the
intended area but the hardiness is compensated by
more seeds.
19- The rule that the source (where the seeds were
collected) must be given will be there and is
guaranteed by the state. This is the most
relevant information, and that is enough for
customers to make their own informed decisions.
20Planting and seedingProvenance transfer
- An increasing amount of forest is planted or
seeded. Cones are typically collected from old
felled stands. Felled stands in northern Sweden
are almost always autochthonous. Even when forest
culture started it was often rather small
transfers.
21Quantitative importance
- If we move a provenance one or two latitudes?
- In the new place probably 15 of the plants will
be self-generation - 50 of pollen will anyway be contamination
- Selection will make it more similar to the local
provenance - The difference among stands is anyway -0.5
latitude or so - Planted stands are probably better seed sources
(adapted to plantation, less inbreeding), so it
may be disadvantage with stand - If the stand is an origin which differs 2
latitudes from the local, it may behave as if it
was one latitude different. It makes difference
in both growth and survival, but partly
compensatory from a production point of view, so
the loss is of the magnitude a few percent of
production, which is not a big problem. - The chance is rather small and the trouble
limited so I suggest accepting it.
22Planting and seeding- imports to southern Sweden
- In southern Sweden, cultivation has been going on
for several centuries. The results from pine
plantations were so bad so import was forbidden
on crown land around 1883. Measured as kilogram,
we has imported as much for more than a century,
but one kg gives more forest now. Still even in
south Sweden rather much autochthonous forests
still exists, but we can hardly identify them and
we do not know how much. Anyway the area is
declining. - Some foreign provenances seemed to give a good
progeny (hybrids). - Even where seed collection areas has been
identified (Emmaboda), their genetic character
change over time.
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24Southern Sweden
- For pine it is probably clear cuttings used local
sources, the Tysktall episode is too long time
ago to matter and affected a small area, and led
to more local materials. - Anyway seed orchards are now dominating so it
will be neglible seed collections. - For spruce where is little demand on domestic
origins (a few hundred thousand plants at
Skogsplantor). Imports will dominate. - So South Sweden may be too small problem to
really matter.
25Theoretically seeds could be obtained from
planted stands with the best provenances
- As seeds are used for plantations, seeds
collected from plantations are expected to be
better adapted to plantation. - A local plantation get generally better locally
adapted seeds than direct imports. - There are cutting plantations, but the selection
was to weak to make most of them genetically
superior - The provenances (e.g. Belarus) are not constant
and probably becomes less reliable over time - Planted stands with the best provenances are
too young to be felled and too seldom well
documented.
26- The small benefit from avoiding the worst looking
stands and areas where imports are especially
suspected from historical records may probably be
done anyway without rules.
27- Finland seem in principle to have made all
Finland a seed collection area. - To joke a bit about Finland. The seed collection
areas do not extend beyond altitude 1310 meters,
that puzzled me a bit as I thought Finland was
flat, but actually there is that high peak on the
border to Norway, where I guess the tree limit
drops below sea level.
28Regions of provenance for Sweden
Heat sum (Finland)
Region of provenance (pine) for Finland
I would still like to share more fine-scaled in
regions of provenance (which can not be mixed),
but LA seems to think it can be still simpler.
29Areas to avoid seed collection
- Coastal areas are exposed to Mans activities
since much longer time than inland. Since Man got
sailing technology year 600 I believe wood
transports from wood felled in coastal areas were
common even in far north. Coastal areas have a
later phenology and therefore a more sporadic and
unpredictable gene migration. Mans operation can
be expected to be more small scaled and locally
diversified at the coast. Therefore I suggest to
avoid seed collection close to coast, it may be
operational with an elevation 50 border. - This is the only guess I can make, and it has
little influence as little seed anyway is
harvested in coastal areas. - Evidently there are places unsuitable for seed
collection like botanical gardens and trials.
30There seem to be little reason to vigorously
defend seed collection areas. But could we not
still keep them?
- But still they may give a little gain and are
established by intelligent people and built on
old wisdom, should all this work and energy be
counted for nothing just as it is my guess? - It has a definite PR value and makes the people
to feel more confident that they trust the strict
rules enforced. - The areas will not be needed in some decades and
freedom could be misused. - It creates some further considerations to remove
the idea of seed collection area (reduced region
of provenance needed?) some other limitations
(e.g. only forest land)
31- I would prefer a system so it was easy to extend
the allowed area, thus it is actually enough to
document what has been done to get it approved
retrospectively. - An advantage with such system
- It forces documentation and thought why
- Its a motive for the forest authority to
preserve some production oriented genetic
competence - It is not irreciprocal removal
- It would be few cases each year (demand low) so
not a big effort needed. - EU and OECD believes that they make rule to help
us, all our effort should not go to discretely
nullify rules and intentions.
32Total freedom
- No paperwork at the forest authority
- Easier for the seed collectors
- The trend now is to remove governmental
restrictions from the industry. - Similar to the intelligent neighbors in the east
(Finland). - Even if freedom should we still have regions
on provenance and how should they look? Like in
Finland or in current Sweden?
33After this short introduction.
- The possibilities to get good seeds by choosing
good stands seem neglectable - But most of the genetic variation seems to be
among trees within stands, not among stands or
areas (within the same region). - Could we not select the best trees for cone
harvest? Perhaps! But difficult!
34Magnitude of gain small by selecting the best
trees
- Phenotypic selection gain of plus trees gave a
gain of magnitude 6. That was intensive (say 1
in 100) and careful (measurement of comparison
trees), carefully done by experienced staff. - This to select cone harvest trees can only be
done with low intensity (say 1 in 2) and fast and
sloppy. So the gain will only be in the magnitude
1-2.
35W 4009, the reproductively most successful tree
in Sweden
36Thinning
- To remove inferior trees improves the pollen
crop. Forests are thinned and sometimes the idea
is to leave the best trees there the value growth
is most important. Thus it is good if suitable
stands which are thinned with the aim of
improving the quality of the stand are registered
at thinning, and considered as seed collection
areas. - Note that thinning away dying supressed inferior
trees probably has small effect on the
reproductive output. Thinning away the worst half
of trees is not a selection 12 for genetic
quality at seed collection. - The gain is anyway low!
37Selection of seed parents
- In the far north pine seeds are sometimes
collected from standing trees (in rather young
stands). Could the people doing this be
instructed in some way? - If the cone collection was very integrated with
harvest, the harvester could mark good trees
(e.g. by leaving tops sticking up) and the cone
collector follow immediately after (so the
harvester do not make the adjacent felling before
cones collected). This type of coordination is
demanding. - The best trees could be identified and felled
manually and harvested for cones. When the
harvester can come later. - The best trees could be identified and when
harvested by cutting the tops down by helicopter
before the final harvest of the stand. As
helicopters nowadays are used for cutting tops in
seed orchards, equipment and contacts with
entrepreneours ought to be possible
38Tops are cut down in a seed orchard with a
helicopter and cones collected from ground. Could
be done in stands also.
39Seed tree stands of Scots pine
- They are drastically thinned. That improves seed
production considerable. - I believe cone collection cheaper but Jörgen
Andersson doubted that. - They could be identified and treated as potential
seed collection stands already when the seed tree
stand was created. - Selection of seed trees on assumed genetic
superiority - Fertilized for further increase in seed yeild
- Harvest coordinated with cone harvest