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Title: Lemonade IETF 67


1
LemonadeIETF 67
  • Eric Burger
  • eburger_at_cantata.com
  • Glenn Parsons (In Æther)gparsons_at_nortel.com

2
Remote Logistics
  • mp3 Feed SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE!!!
  • Tuesday http//videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/i
    etf675.m3u
  • Thursday http//videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/
    ietf673.m3u
  • Jabber
  • Server jabber.ietf.org
  • Room lemonade
  • Logs http//www.ietf.org/meetings/ietf-logs/lemon
    ade/
  • Meeting Materials (Presentations, Agenda, etc.)
  • https//datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materi
    als.cgi?meeting_num67

3
Scribes and Transcribes
  • ?? For Tuesday
  • ?? For Thursday

4
Note Well
  • Any submission to the IETF intended by the
    Contributor for publication as all or part of an
    IETF Internet-Draft or RFC and any statement made
    within the context of an IETF activity is
    considered an "IETF Contribution". Such
    statements include oral statements in IETF
    sessions, as well as written and electronic
    communications made at any time or place, which
    are addressed to
  • the IETF plenary session,
  • any IETF working group or portion thereof,
  • the IESG or any member thereof on behalf of the
    IESG,
  • the IAB or any member thereof on behalf of the
    IAB,
  • any IETF mailing list, including the IETF list
    itself, any working group or design team list, or
    any other list functioning under IETF auspices,
  • the RFC Editor or the Internet-Drafts function
  • All IETF Contributions are subject to the rules
    of RFC 3978 (updated by RFC 4748) and RFC
    3979.Statements made outside of an IETF
    session, mailing list or other function, that are
    clearly not intended to be input to an IETF
    activity, group or function, are not IETF
    Contributions in the context of this notice.
  • Please consult RFC 3978 (and RFC 4748) for
    details.

5
Agenda
  • Day 1
  • Agenda Bashing
  • Status of Documents
  • Interop Event
  • Document Discussion
  • Inter-Plenary Work
  • Plan for Profile
  • Milestones
  • Day 2
  • Agenda Bashing
  • Work On Discovered Interop Issues
  • Work On Documents
  • Convert
  • Search-Within
  • VFOLDER
  • Profile bis
  • Review Milestones

6
Document StatusOut of Our Hands
  • Published
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-profile-07 RFC 4550
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-urlauth-08 RFC 4467
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-burl-04 RFC 4468
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-catenate-05 RFC 4469
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping-06 RFC 4356
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-goals-05 RFC 4416
  • RFC Editor Queue
  • draft-melnikov-imap-search-ret-03 AUTH48
  • IETF last call
  • draft-melnikov-imap-expunged-01 Revision Needed
  • draft-vaudreuil-futuredelivery-04 IESG Approved

7
Document StatusIn Our Control
  • WG Last Call Finished
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-deployments
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect-client
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-compress
  • WG Last Call
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-convert-05
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-search-within-02
  • IETF Last Call
  • draft-daboo-imap-annotatemore-10
  • Didnt happen after Montreal
  • Cyrus Would Like IMAP-EXT Expert Review First

8
Documents to Discuss
  • Views
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-vfolder-01
  • draft-cridland-imap-context-00
  • Other Bis Components
  • draft-maes-lemonade-xencrypted-02
  • draft-maes-lemonade-tcp-challenged-environments-01
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-2192bis-02
  • Reconnect (Server)
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect-07
  • Notifications
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-msgevent-00
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-notifications-03
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-notification-protocol-00
  • draft-melnikov-lemonade-imap-events-00
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-sieve-01
  • Streaming Media
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-00
  • draft-burger-lemonade-streamctrls-00
  • Profile-bis
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-profile-bis-04

9
LEMONADE Interop
  • Reasons for Interop
  • Marketing
  • Proving viability of IETF I-D
  • Before RFC publication
  • Moving to IETF Draft standard
  • from Proposed standard status
  • Compliance
  • Conformance PICS
  • Interop test suite
  • Input to OMA IOP
  • Venue opportunities
  • Private testing
  • London, UK
  • Oct 23-27, 2006
  • DONE
  • Telecom 2006
  • LEMONADE interop
  • Hong Kong - Dec 4-8
  • 3GSM 2007
  • Proposed OMA MEM interop?
  • Barcelona - Feb 12-15

10
Summary from Private Testing
  • 6 Corporate Entities,3 Universities
  • Established 4 Test Servers
  • Tested RFC 4550 (LEMONADE Profile) Components and
    Scenarios
  • IMAP Features (NAMESPACE, LITERAL, pipelining)
  • IDLE
  • CONDSTORE
  • SMTP Features (ENHANCEDSETATUSCODES, pipelining,
    BINARYMIME, SIZE, AUTH)
  • Forward Without Download (CATENATE, UIDPLUS,
    URLAUTH, BURL)
  • Additional Features (BINARY, LIST-EXTENEDED)

11
Results
  • Lots of Stuff Worked As Advertised
  • Some Specifications Need Clarification
  • Not Wrong, But Can Be Misinterpreted
  • IMAP URL, CATENATE, URLAUTH, CONDSTORE, IDLE
  • Details and Discussion on Thursday

12
Document Discussion
  • Alexey Melnikov

13
Changes to Profile bis
  • Replaced RECONNECT (server side quick reconnect)
    with QRESYNC (client side quick reconnect)
  • Added WITHIN and LIST-EXTENDED to the list of
    IMAP extensions
  • Moved IDLE extension to a separate section.
  • Added requirement for clients to use
    Formatflowed.
  • Clarified interaction of SMTP SIZE and SMTP BURL
    (Thanks to Randy)
  • Updated references

14
RFC2192bis Issues
  • Include URLAUTH IMAP URL extension into this
    draft?
  • Extend syntax to allow for BINARY, SEARCH return
    options (ESEARCH extensions), LIST-EXTENDED,
    etc.? (I think the answer to this question is
    yes, the question if we want to put all mentioned
    IMAP URL extensions in 2192bis)
  • Input from Private Testing Event
  • ABNF Error Will Be Fixed in Next Version

No change from interim or Montreal
15
Notifications
  • Architecture
  • In-Band (IDLE)

16
Next Steps
17
Interim Progress
  • Face-to-Face Unnecessary (?)
  • Monthly Jabber Chats to Push Documents Forward
  • Consensus?

18
Documents on Deck for WGLC
  • 2192bis
  • Multiple Conversions in Convert,then Re-WGLC
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-msgevent-00
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-notifications-03
  • draft-melnikov-lemonade-imap-events-00
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-notification-protocol-00
  • draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-sieve-01

19
Profile Plans
  • Components for Profile bis Complete, Except
  • Notifications
  • Views
  • Streaming
  • Everything Was Supposed to be Done Now
  • Publish Profile bis With Whatever of
    Notifications, Views, or Streaming is Ready
  • Publish Profile ter With Rest of Feature Set
  • OR Wait to Do Everything at Once?

20
Milestone Dates
Forgot to Update!
  • Goals and Milestones
  • Done Submit LEMONADE goals and use-cases
    specification to the IESG
  • Done Submit server to server notification
    requirements to the IESG
  • Done Submit translation to other messaging
    systems to the IESG
  • Done Submit IMAP/SUBMIT extensions for forward
    without download to IESG
  • Done Submit IMAP4 profile for mobile devices to
    the IESG
  • Jun 05 Submit IMAP4 extensions for streaming
    multimedia to the IESG
  • Aug 05 Submit server to server notification
    protocol to the IESG

21
Proposed Milestone dates
  • Charter items
  • Dec 2006 - CONVERT
  • Dec 2006 - IMAP Search extension
  • Dec 2006 - Deployment
  • Dec 2006 - Reconnect (the chosen one)
  • Dec 2006 - COMPRESSION 
  • Dec 2006 - IMAP URL
  • Jan 2007 - LEMONADE profile bis
  • Feb 2007 - Filtered views
  • Feb 2007 - Notifications format
  • Mar 2007 - Notifications protocol
  • Mar 2007 - IMAP SIEVE
  • Apr 2007 - LEMONADE profile ter
  • Non charter items
  • Jun 2006 - Future delivery
  • Nov 2006 - Extended search
  • Nov 2006 - Annotatemore
  • Jan 2007 - TCP challenged
  • Feb 2007 - Streaming

????????????Again ????????
Not tracked by WG, but tracked as interesting
22
LemonadeIETF 67Day 2
  • Eric Burger
  • eburger_at_cantata.com
  • Glenn Parsons (In Æther)gparsons_at_nortel.com

23
Remote Logistics
  • mp3 Feed SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE!!!
  • Tuesday http//videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/i
    etf675.m3u
  • Thursday http//videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/
    ietf673.m3u
  • Jabber
  • Server jabber.ietf.org
  • Room lemonade
  • Logs http//www.ietf.org/meetings/ietf-logs/lemon
    ade/
  • Meeting Materials (Presentations, Agenda, etc.)
  • https//datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materi
    als.cgi?meeting_num67

24
Scribes and Transcribes
  • ?? For Tuesday
  • ?? For Thursday

25
Note Well
  • Any submission to the IETF intended by the
    Contributor for publication as all or part of an
    IETF Internet-Draft or RFC and any statement made
    within the context of an IETF activity is
    considered an "IETF Contribution". Such
    statements include oral statements in IETF
    sessions, as well as written and electronic
    communications made at any time or place, which
    are addressed to
  • the IETF plenary session,
  • any IETF working group or portion thereof,
  • the IESG or any member thereof on behalf of the
    IESG,
  • the IAB or any member thereof on behalf of the
    IAB,
  • any IETF mailing list, including the IETF list
    itself, any working group or design team list, or
    any other list functioning under IETF auspices,
  • the RFC Editor or the Internet-Drafts function
  • All IETF Contributions are subject to the rules
    of RFC 3978 (updated by RFC 4748) and RFC
    3979.Statements made outside of an IETF
    session, mailing list or other function, that are
    clearly not intended to be input to an IETF
    activity, group or function, are not IETF
    Contributions in the context of this notice.
  • Please consult RFC 3978 (and RFC 4748) for
    details.

26
Agenda Day 2
  • Agenda Bashing
  • Work On Discovered Interop Issues
  • Work On Documents
  • Convert
  • Search-Within
  • Filtered Views
  • Notifications
  • Profile bis
  • Review Milestones

27
Proposed Milestone dates
  • Charter items
  • Dec 2006 - CONVERT
  • Dec 2006 - IMAP Search extension
  • Dec 2006 - Deployment
  • Dec 2006 - Reconnect (the chosen one)
  • Dec 2006 - COMPRESSION 
  • Dec 2006 - IMAP URL
  • Jan 2007 - LEMONADE profile bis
  • Feb 2007 - Filtered views
  • Feb 2007 - Notifications format
  • Mar 2007 - Notifications protocol
  • Mar 2007 - IMAP SIEVE
  • Apr 2007 - LEMONADE profile ter
  • Non charter items
  • Jun 2006 - Future delivery
  • Nov 2006 - Extended search
  • Nov 2006 - Annotatemore
  • Jan 2007 - TCP challenged
  • Feb 2007 - Streaming

Not tracked by WG, but tracked as interesting
28
Thanks!
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  • General Discussion lemonade_at_ietf.org
  • To Subscribe lemonade-request_at_ietf.org
  • In Body in body 'subscribe'
  • Archive ftp//ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/lemo
    nade/
  • Supplemental Work Group Page
  • http//flyingfox.cantata.com/i-d/lemonade/
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