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1
Agenda for 8th Class
  • Name plates
  • Voice recorder on
  • Review of Last Class
  • Cohen Personal Jurisdiction

2
Assignment for Next Class
  • 21-24 (pp. 137-50)
  • Please pay special attention to
  • P. 138. If you were on the city council of your
    Los Angeles, what kind of ordinance would you
    support to regulate conduct in LAs parks? Would
    it look like the ordinance of the City of
    Mudville, Hollytown, or any of the other
    ordinances on p. 138?
  • In the US Tax Code, tax evasion is generally
    defined as a transaction whose primary purpose is
    tax avoidance and which as no bona fine business
    purpose
  • Is that a rule or a standard?
  • Why do you think the Code does not describe in
    detail all possible forms of tax avoidance?

3
Administrative Stuff
  • Friday lunch.
  • CD. sign up today for Friday
  • Office Hours
  • Today, Monday 9/21, 420-5, Rm 460
  • NOT Tuesday 9/22, 145-245, Rm. 460

4
Review US v. Diamond I
  • Posners view
  • Positivist would interpret statute to require 10
    year minimum sentence, because that is most
    plausible textualist reading
  • Pragmatist or adherent of natural law would
    interpret statute not to require 10 year minimum
    sentence, because such a sentence would create
    arbitrary distinctions between LSD dealers
    (depending on whether used heavy or light blotter
    paper, sugar cubes, etc.) and between LSD dealers
    and cocaine and heroine dealers
  • Pragmatic view most closely related to
    purposivism purpose of statute is to give equal
    sentences for equal number of doses for drugs of
    equal dangerousness
  • Pragmatic view also justified by canon of
    statutory construction, which requires
    interpretations which avoid constitutional
    difficulties

5
Review US v. Diamond II
  • Alternate Views
  • Positivist could give lt10 year sentence
  • By interpreting substance or mixture to exclude
    blotter paper
  • By viewing equal protection clause as part of
    enacted law
  • Statute not irrational
  • Because most retail LSD dealers use light blotter
    paper
  • And Congress can reasonable legislate for most
    common circumstances
  • Because wholesale LSD sellers distribute using
    alcohol, which weights about as much per dose as
    light blotter paper
  • Judges dont know enough and so should not
    lightly infer irrationality
  • Is wholesale LSD generally sold dry or wet?
  • What are typical doses of heroine, cocaine and
    LSD?
  • There may be a good reason to punish LSD more
    heavily per dose.

6
Legal Realism
  • Functionalism/Pragmatism. Meaning of legal
    concepts is found in their consequences.
  • To determine legal rule, analyze consequences of
    proposed rule and possible alternatives
  • Choose legal rule which has the best consequences
  • Reasoning of judges is and should be similar to
    that of legislature
  • Much traditional legal reasoning is metaphysical
    scholastic, equivalent to arguing how many
    angels can stand on the point of a needle.

7
Questions on Cohen
  • 11. Reread International Shoe in your Civil
    Procedure casebook. To what extent does
    International Shoe reflect Cohens critique of
    Tauza? Are there particular passages which adopt
    Cohens reasoning? To what extent does
    International Shoe differ from Cohens vision of
    how a court should decide personal jurisdiction
    questions? Are there particular passages which
    Cohen would have disagreed with?
  • 12. What Cohen calls the functional approach,
    with its emphasis on consequences, would today
    probably be described as a pragmatic approach.
    How pragmatic is the reasoning in International
    Shoe and subsequent cases, such as World-Wide
    Volkswagen? Do the Supreme Courts criteria for
    personal jurisdiction minimum contacts,
    purposeful availment, etc. correspond to the
    considerations that Cohen thinks a competent
    legislature would have considered? Can you
    think of rules which would better satisfy Cohens
    desire for a pragmatic law of personal
    jurisdiction? If so, why dont you think the
    Supreme Court has adopted them?
  • 7. Do you think that Cardozo really had no
    appreciation for the economic, social, and
    ethical issues raised by the question of whether
    the out-of-state corporation could be sued in New
    York? Or is it possible that Cardozo fully
    appreciated these issues, but chose not to talk
    about them? Could the latter be a legitimate
    judicial method? Even if the judge actually
    reached his conclusion on ethical, economic, or
    social grounds?
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