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Title: Ethical rationalism


1
Ethical rationalism
  • Lecture 4 Morality and happiness

A Why are you hitting yourself on the head with
that hammer? B Because it feels so good when I
stop!
2
Societies and personalities
3
Types of desire
  • Necessary. 2 kinds
  • Unavoidable (hunger)
  • Beneficial (desire for making money)
  • Unnecessary neither unavoidable nor beneficial.
    Examples
  • gluttonous desires
  • spendthrift desires

4
Social and psychic decline
5
Glaucons challenge revisited
  • Gs challenge show that the moral person is
    necessarily the happiest
  • Socrates will give three answers in Book IX

6
1st answer (571-580)
  • Tyrannical person will violate morality
  • He will be miserable
  • More generally, dissatisfaction follows the order
    of psychic decline (580c)

7
2nd answer (580-583)
  • Each part of the soul has its distinct kind of
    pleasure
  • Each type of person thinks his characteristic
    pleasure is the greatest
  • Only the the philosophical person has the
    experience and the judgment to compare
  • Hence, the person in psychic harmony is the
    happiest

8
Personalities and pleasures
9
Objection
  • The philosophical person may have had
    experience of other desires, but not of other
    lives as a whole. Why then is his viewpoint not
    biased?

10
Reply
  • Must use reason to make an unbiased judgment
  • Appetitive and spirited personalities subordinate
    reason to felt intensity of desire
  • Only in philosophical personalities is reason
    making a genuine comparative judgment

11
Problem
  • This reply suggests that experiences can seem
    pleasurable but not really be so. Does this idea
    make sense? Plato thinks so, and this is why he
    provides a third reply.

12
3rd answer (583-588)
  • Pleasures of appetitive and spirited
    personalities enter the soul through the body
  • These have a sensory aspect that needs to be
    corrected by reason.
  • Uncorrected, these pleasures are only pale images
    of true pleasures.
  • These personalities are thus like the cave
    prisoners

13
Example
  • The same state of the body can feel good or bad
    depending on what precedes it.
  • But the very same state cannot both be pleasure
    and pain
  • There must be an appearance-reality distinction
    for pleasures
  • Reason is needed to tell the difference
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