SurgSoc Proudly Presents: Intercalation A Students Perspective

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Intercalation Talk.
40 of medical undergraduates have an additional
degree. Our intercalation talk will help you to
decide.
Thursday 20th November LT4 7 PM
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Overview

• 7.00 pm Ammar Natalwala (BSc, Neurosciences)
• - Career pathway in surgery
• - CV boosting opportunities
• - Role of Intercalation
• - What Intercalation involves
• - Pros and Cons
• - Research
• 7.30 pm Ashok Gunawardene (BSc, Anatomy)
• 7.45 pm Kiren Shabir (BSc, Psychology)
• 8.00 pm Dr Rahul Potluri (BSc, Cardiovascular
  Sciences)

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A Surgical Career

• Why do you want to become a surgeon?

www.ahajokes.com/crt617.html
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A Surgical Career

• Why do you want to become a surgeon?
• Range of operations/ sub-specialities
• New technology
• Robotic surgery
• Neurosurgery
• Transplant surgery

http//www.intuitivesurgical.com/products/davinci_
surgicalsystem/index.aspx
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Surgical Training Pathway

• Medical School
• Duration 5 years (6yrs with Intercalation)
• Exam MBBS/ MBChB
• On completion Provisional registration with GMC

Royal College of Surgeons, England Website
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Surgical Training Pathway

• Foundation years
• Pre-requisite Provisional registration with GMC
• Duration 2 years
• Exam None
• On completion Full registration with GMC

Royal College of Surgeons, England Website
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Surgical Training Pathway

• Speciality training years 1 and 2
• Pre-requisites Full registration with GMC
• Duration Normally 2 years Core Surgical training
• Exam MRCS and workplace based assessments
• On completion Progression to ST3

Royal College of Surgeons, England Website
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Surgical Training Pathway

• Speciality training years 3 plus
• Pre-requisites Successful completion of ST1 and
  ST2
• Duration 5-6 years depending on speciality
• Exam Intercollegiate Speciality Examination
  (FRCS)
• On completion Certificate of Completion of
  training (CCT)

Royal College of Surgeons, England Website
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Further Information

• SurgSoc Careers Evening (February 2009)
• Royal college of Surgeons website
  http//www.rcseng.ac.uk
• Modernising Medical Careers website
  http//www.mmc.nhs.uk/pages/home

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At Medical School

• Show your interest in surgery!
• Our Events
• WiST
• Surgical Careers Evening
• Royal College of Surgeons visit
• Anatomy Course
• Mentor Programme
• National SurgSoc Competition
• Research
• Saving Faces
• Grants available from RCSE website
• Intercalation

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Intercalation

• What is it?
• When can I intercalate?
• What can I intercalate in?
• Biological Sciences
• Medicine in Society

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Degrees Offered

• Biological Sciences
• Cell and Molecular Pathology
• Physiology
• Cardiovascular Science
• Neuroscience
• Pharmacology
• Biochemistry

• Clinical Sciences
• Haematology
• Immunology
• Infection
• Histopathology
• Clinical Chemistry
• Cancer Studies

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Degrees Offered

• Medicine in Society
• Health Care Ethics and Law
• History of Medicine
• Behavioural Science
• Occupational Health
• Public Health and Epidemiology
• Psychological Medicine

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Intercalation

• Neurosciences at Kings College in London
• Application to Kings
• Meet deadlines
• May require interview
• Permission from the Dean
• Advantages
• Teaching
• ? More research opportunities
• New environment

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Intercalation What did it involve?

• Modules
• Systems Neuroscience (1)
• Molecular and Cellular Neuroscience (1)
• Quantitative Neuroscience (0.5)
• Laboratory based project (1.5)

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Intercalation What did it involve?

• Lectures
• 1st semester
• Latest research
• 2 Journals per lecture!
• Coursework
• Writing abstracts
• Posters
• Statistics using SPSS

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What did it involve?

• Dissertation
• Pick supervisor early!
• Approach them with ideas / CV
• Throughout 2nd semester
• Writing to publication standard
• Lab / Library Project
• Exams
• 3 hours
• 3 essays
• Referencing journals
• Stats exam

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Intercalation - Pros

• UNIQUE opportunity degree in 1 year
• In-depth knowledge surgery/ anatomy
• Insight into research
• Using Pubmed
• Writing skills Ability to read and criticise
  papers
• Statistics
• Publication
• Points on job application form
• Break from medicine meet new people

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Intercalation - Pros

• Points on UKFPO
• (Q1 out of 8 points)
• 0 no additional degree
• 1 BSc which does not extend duration of MBChB
  (Nottingham)
• 2 3rd BSc
• 3 22 BSc
• 4 21 BSc, MSc, BDS
• 5 1st BSc or PhD

• Other educational achievements
• 1 prize (national)
• 1 publication (peer reviewed)
• 1 Oral or Poster presentation (National or
  International Conference)
• Have to be 1st or 2nd author

http//www.foundationprogramme.nhs.uk/pages/home/k
ey-documents
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Intercalation - Pros

• UKFPO
• Academic ranking (40 points)
• 1st 40
• 2nd 38
• 3rd 36
• 4th 34
• Application questions (60 points) 7 qs

http//www.foundationprogramme.nhs.uk/pages/home/k
ey-documents
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Intercalation - Cons

• An extra year of study
• Not easy!
• Expense
• Forgetting medicine
• Going into the year below

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Relevance

• Appreciate difference between BSc and MBChB
  degree
• Appreciate what lab-based projects involve
• Experience is just as important as a publication

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Then What?

• After Intercalation apply research skills
• SSM2 Biological sciences
• SSM3 Public Health Epidemiology Project
• Year 4 Elective/ Poster
• Year 5 SSA

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Then What?

• Audits
• Presentations Conference posters
• Training courses
• Teaching opportunities

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National SurgSoc Competition

• 100 Pre-clinical student prize
• 500 word abstract on The Future of Modern
  Surgery
• 100 Clinical student prize
• 500 word case report on a surgical patient (does
  not have to be a rare condition)
• How is it assessed?
• Clarity
• Innovation
• Interest
• Winners will be selected by our Honorary
  President (Prof. Alderson) and will be invited to
  do a 10 minute presentation at the Careers
  evening/ Sir Harold Ellis Talk and will be
  awarded their prize
• How do I apply?
• Send entries with your name and year of study to
  events_at_surgsoc.co.uk
• Deadline is 31st January 2009

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Conclusion

• Intercalation is a great opportunity to develop
  your career
• Not a doss year expense factor
• Pick modules carefully and contact potential
  supervisors early
• Meet application deadlines
• Is Medicine an Art or Science???

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Conclusion

• Most importantly HAVE FUN!