Title: AIAA Non Deterministic Approaches (NDA)
1AIAA Non Deterministic Approaches (NDA)
- Proposal to create the
- AIAA NDA Technical Committee
- to
- AIAA New Initiatives Subcommittee
- 9 January 2007
- Prepared by Ben Thacker, Chair NDA Working Group,
bthacker_at_swri.org, 210/522-3896
2Need for an NDA Technical Committee
- NDA Working Group in active existence since 2004
- Over 30 members
- Operating according to TC guidelines
- 7 successful NDA forums, 1 successful NDA
conference - Non-deterministic or probabilistic methods now
recognized in other societies - SAE, ASME, ASCE, SEM, and ASQ
- NDA Conference requires TC-level support to
ensure enduring stream of high quality leadership
3What is NDA?
- Non-Deterministic Approaches are methods,
philosophies and approaches that seek to address
the effect of inherent and systematic
uncertainties in engineered systems. - NDA is rapidly gaining ground as preferred
methods for analysis and design with potentially
high payoffs (cost, safety, etc.) in
aeronautical, aerospace, and other many other
related applications. - NDA is currently part of the Structures TC
4AIAA NDA When, Why and How?
- 1st NDA Forum at 40th SDM in 1999 (St Louis, MO)
- Bring together NDA related work throughout the
aerospace community - Expose critical NDA issues
- Provide direction for future NDA research
5Background
- Successfully conducted 7 consecutive NDA Forums
(99-05) and one full conference (06) - NDA Conference approved in 2006
- Called the 8th NDA Conference to reflect our 7
previous forums - 9th NDA Conference planned for 2007 in Waikiki,
Hawaii - 52 accepted abstracts organized into 9 sessions
6NDA-WG Scope
- The NDA Working Group supports AIAA technical
activities that advance the relevant art, science
and cross-cutting technologies required for the
successful application of non-deterministic
approaches to aerospace systems.
7NDA Working GroupGoals
- Organize NDA Conference in support of the SDM
- Ensure quality leadership for NDA Conference
- Serve as the focal point for NDA technologies in
AIAA - Coordinate AIAA activities on NDA with other
organizations - Coordinate NDA activities with other AIAA
technical committees - Transfer NDA technology to AIAA membership
8NDA-WG Leadership
- Chair Ben Thacker (rotate out 4/07)
- Vice Chair Chris Pettit (rotate in 4/07)
- Secretary Jason Pepin
- Liaisons
- MDO Romero
- ASA Wallace
- ASCE Mahadevan
- Structures TC Hilton
- ASME Pepin/Romero
- SAE Ghiocel
- Adaptive Structures TC Chamis
9NDA Conference Leadership
Year General Chair Technical Chair
2008, TBD Sankaran Mahadevan TBD
2007, Hawaii Mike Enright Sankaran Mahadevan
2006, Newport Chris Pettit Mike Enright
2005, Austin Levon Minnetyan Chris Pettit
2004, Palm Springs Christos Chamis Levon Minnetyan
2003, Norfolk Christos Chamis Levon Minnetyan
2002, Denver Christos Chamis Levon Minnetyan
2001, Seattle Suren Singhal Christos Chamis
2000, Atlanta Suren Singhal Christos Chamis
1999, St Louis Suren Singhal Christos Chamis
10Sustained Performance of the NDA Conference
No. of Accepted Papers
Year
112004 NDA Forum Session Titles
- Sampling Methods
- Code Verification
- Response Surface Methods
- Model Validation
- Dynamic Systems
- Flight Applications
- Materials and Design Safety Factors
- Reliability-Based Design Optimization
- Fatigue and Fracture
12Current Roster 31 Members
13NDA-WG Makeup
14NDA-WG Bulletin Board
15Why Create an NDA TC?
- Growing interest
- Place at the table
- Natural evolution of NDA activities in AIAA
- As a technology, NDA is different from yet
integral to other key SDM TCs
- Structures
- Materials
- Structural Dynamics
- MDO
- Survivability
- Adaptive Structures
NDA serves a unique purpose
16Support
- Betty Guillie emailed proposal to all AIAA TC
chairs on 12/5/2006
Summary of Responses
TC For Against Undecided
Ground Test ?
Space Operations and Support ?
Solid Rockets ?
Management ?
Survivability ?
Meshing, Visualization, and Computational Environments ?
Aircraft Operations ?
Balloons ?
Fluid Dynamics ? ?
Structures ?
17Support, contd
- Mark Melanson, Ground Test TC
- No objections or known overlap
- Mike Mattis, Space Operations and Support
- The SOSTC has no scope issues and believes that
Non-Deterministic Approaches would be a good
addition to the Technical Committees
18Support, contd
- I-Shih, Solid Rockets
- There is no objection from Solid Rockets
Technical Committee to creating a new NDA
Technical Committee - J. Stephen Rottler, Management
- There is no overlap between the proposed NDA TC
and the TCM - Ron Dexter, Survivability
- I reviewed your proposal and do not see any
conflicts or overlap
19Support, contd
- John Chawner, Meshing, Visualization, and
Computational Environments - MVCE - in the persons of John Chawner (chair) and
John Dannenhoffer (vice chair) is OK with
formation of the NDA TC - Brian Baxley, Aircraft Operations
- there does not appear to be any scope overlap of
the proposed TC with the Aircraft Operations TC.
20Support, contd
- Henry Cathey, Balloon Systems
- On the whole, the responses were very positive
- One member commented
- "It seems to me that the use of NDA to obtain a
result is of interest to many disciplines.
However, should the method itself be represented
in AIAA is a TC? The safety folks use this to
create flight rule for our balloons which is
important. But is the probability theory itself
in need of representation? I think not." - My response to member (via Cathey) on 12/15/06
- Non-deterministic Approaches (NDA) are much more
than probability theory. NDA encompass the field
we call "uncertainty quantification" and it
includes techniques such as probability theory,
fuzzy sets, possibility theory, evidence theory,
convex models, info-gap theory, etc. Even if NDA
meant only probability theory, application of
probability theory to structural/mechanical/therma
l problems requires efficient and accurate
algorithms and analysis strategies. Thus, applied
probability theory itself is still a very active
area of research and development, and will
continue to be as we ask it to solve ever
increasingly challenging problems. - The proposed NDA TC is technology oriented as
opposed to application oriented, which may be
fueling the confusion. Many of our members and
conference attendees are engineers working at
aerospace companies who are faced with problems
that can only be solved using NDA. Others are
methods developers. Solutions to current and
challenging reliability problems go way beyond
what's available in standard probability
textbooks, and that's precisely where NDA are
required. Our TC brings these two groups
together, as well as supports many of the other
areas within AIAA (structures, materials,
dynamics, etc.) - There could be a viewpoint issue/problem here as
well. If you are only an occasional user of basic
probability theory, you may not be aware of the
broad and rapidly growing field of NDA driven by
the needs of industry. I'm not sure if this is
the case here, but I have run into before.
21Support, contd
- Thomas Beutner (chair) Peter Hartwich,
(chair-elect), Fluid Dynamics - Non-deterministic are relevant to structures, to
fluids, to thermal sciences. Thus, there's
inherent overlap with established TCs - If the goal of this TC is to sponsor a conference
that will collocate with structures, then is a
new TC needed? - AIAA's total membership is stable if not
decaying. In this general environment, is it
advisable that AIAA keeps creating new TCs? - Hartwich In summary, my vote is against
establishing an NDATC. - Beutner I suggest tabling the decision on a new
TC for now and utilizing the existing TC
structure to advance NDA and create a sustainable
annual or biennial conference
22Support, contd
- Mary Mahler, Structures
- With full consensus from the membership and
friends of the AIAA Structures Technical
Committee, it is my pleasure to announce that the
Structures TC fully endorses the formation of the
Non-Deterministic Approaches Technical Committee
for AIAA. I have talked to the senior membership
and there is total agreement that the NDA Working
Group had added a valuable aspect to the
aerospace industry. It is a technology that has
come into its own right and should be a technical
committee for AIAA. With this area of interest
only growing in interest and research and
practice in production, the group that has
several senior members and is under the current
leadership of Dr. Ben Thacker should be a
technical committee of AIAA. The members of the
Structures TC had no reservations of this
endorsement. If there are any questions or
further details to this endorsement, please feel
free to contact me. We look forward to working
with Ben and the soon-to-be NDA TC in the future.
23Recommendation
- Establish the NDA Technical Committee