Title: Tcl/Tk 2002
1Tcl/Tk 2002
2Ten Years of Rapid Development
- Mark Roseman
- University of Calgary
- TeamWave Software Ltd.
- Sonexis Inc.
3Welcome to AOL Digital City
4Yeah ok, maybe not.
Them
Us (not to scale)
5Benefit from the Pain of Others
- Tcl experience papers
- Range of systems
- Growing systems
- Development practices
- Soft issues
6In a nutshell
- You can convince others of that.
- But it really helps if you know what youre
doing!
7Todays Talk
- Development phases
- Prototyping (GroupKit)
- Desktop apps (TeamRooms/TeamWave Workplace)
- Web apps (various)
- Growing pains / solutions
- Tcl in the Hot Seat
- Integration, Configurability, Reliability, Scale
- Strengths, Misconceptions, Roadblocks
8Collaborative Systems
- Groupware
- Conferencing
- Highly interactive
- Networking
- Usability
- People issues
9When did you discover Tcl/Tk?
- 1992 _at_ U Calgary
- Prototypes - TK / BYO
- oops, better finish that damn thesis!
- Tcl-DP
10GroupKit
- Prototyping shared applications
- Internal/external use
- Lots of experimentation
11Tcl/Tk Benefits
- Learning curve
- Higher level programming faster
- Rich widget set
- Cross-platform
12Typical Prototyping Usage
- Prototypes, small apps
- Small number of developers, even novices
- Limited time
- Problems solvable more quickly and easily by
individuals small groups.
13TeamRooms
- Real app
- Rooms
- Tools
- Client-server
- Cross-platform
14TeamWave Workplace
- Spin-off company
- 2-3 developers
- Rapid changes
- lt 50k loc
15So far so good
- Ad hoc development practices
- Coding style
- Modularity
- Testing
- Some bleeding-edge gotchas
- Some performance issues
16Onwards!
17Starting to Grow
- Modest financing
- 5-10 developers
- Moving to the web
- Users in education, virtual communities
- Download a deterrent
18Rewrite in Java?
- Keep code base (time to market)
- Client-side Java risky
- Still a small team, tight schedules
- Rapid change
19Proxy Tk
Users Workstation
Server
Tcl Application Code
Tcl Application Code
Tk API
Tk API
Tk Library
Proxy Tk Java Applet
Proxy Tk Library
OS Windowing System
AWT
20Get all that?
- Application code moves to server
- Still uses Tk API
- Tk implementation replaced by Proxy Tk
- Messages sent to Java applet on client
- Events sent from Java back to server
Tcl Application Code
Tk API
Proxy Tk Java Applet
Proxy Tk Library
AWT
21Web Site Management
- Application Service Provider model
- Manage accounts, rooms, scheduling
- Originally cgi.tcl
- Later AOLserver
- Centralized Metakit datastore
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26Growing Pains
- Growing code base
- 90k loc Tcl, 35k loc C, 10k loc Java
- Ramping up new developers
- Tcl learning curve still okay
- Finding integration points
- Coding styles
- Breakage
- Not exactly a shock
27Software Engineering with Tcl?
28Development PracticesCoding Style
- Lots of advantages to using one
- Pick anything
- Tcl Engineering Manual / Style Guide
- Tcl code base as example
29Development PracticesModularity
- Namespaces, objects,
- Follow commands like file, string
- Toplevel parsing routine (entry point)
- Dispatch to other internal procedures
- Naming, variable access, etc.
30Development PracticesAutomated Testing
- Tcl excels here
- Benefits
- Tcltest
- Single language
- Other automation
31Development PracticesSummary
- Traditional approaches work well in Tcl
- This will slow you down (a bit)
- Better than the alternative!
32Tcl in the Hot Seat!
33Obvious Strengths
- Higher level programming
- Cross platform
- Easy licensing
34Common Misconceptions
- Tcl is unstructured
- Tcl is hard to hire for
- Tcl is unsupported
35Larger Systems Issues
- Integration
- Configurability
- Reliability
- Performance and Scalability
36Integration
- Glue
- Extensions
- COM
- Web services
37Configurability
- Adjust for different customers
- Feature sets
- Extensions
- Appearance changes
- Branding
38Reliability
- AOLserver ?
- Two language solution
- Application features in Tcl
- Core engine in C
- Multiple process model
- Easy in Tcl
- Fault tolerant
39Performance and Scalability
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40Performance and Scalability
- AOLserver ? ? ? ? ? ?
- Monitoring performance
- Add telemetry
- Scalability test harness
- Migration to C
- Multiple processes (vs. threads)
41Scalability Results
- Approximately 1000 users
- 2500 Tcl interpreters!
42Many legal bills later
43Bottom Line
- Tcl worked for us
- From prototypes to robust/scalable commercial
apps - With Tcl, could take this work much further on
fewer resources than if using conventional
development tools.
44Pitfalls
- Interactive web applications
- Web site development
- Tcl best practices?
- Image problem?
45Still Great to be a Tcl Developer
- Core Tcl/Tk
- Tcllib
- Activestate
- Tclhttpd
- Metakit
- Tclkit/Starkit
- Wiki
46Shameless Plug
- CourseForum
- Wiki discussion for education
- Multiple areas, users, versions, tracking
- Ease of use
- Easy deployment
- Uses a little bitof Tcl
47Grab a Beta Version _at_ www.courseforum.com
48Summary
Tcl/Tk good.
- You can convince others of that.
- But it really helps if you know what youre
doing!
49Questions? Comments?Entertaining War
Stories?www.markroseman.com