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Title: Overcoming Objections From


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  • Overcoming Objections From
  • The Wealthy Their Advisors

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Agenda
  • The market
  • Creating the correct selling philosophy
  • Turning the tables Dont overcome objections,
    use them to make the sale
  • Positioning yourself with Centers of Influence

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  • There are two markets

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The first market
  • Clients / prospects who can justifiably cover
    their care regardless of the cost
  • Total assets 10,000,000
  • Total income 600,000 _at_ 5 with MRD
  • Example Assuming care is needed for 8 years, 4
    of which are in a nursing facility
  • Four years of around the clock care _at_175,000
    700,000
  • Four years of nursing home care _at_100,000
    400,000

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  • Their centers of influence
  • CPAs / accountants
  • Financial advisors (FA)
  • Estate planning attorneys
  • Their argument
  • Clients have sufficient funds to cover the cost
  • What about the lost investment opportunity if the
    policy is purchased and never used?

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  • Creating the correct
  • selling philosophy
  • Consultative Engagement

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  • The client is educated about how severe the
    consequences to those he (or she) would be if
    (never when) and unexpected event happened in his
    life
  • Once educated he is forced to make a decision

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  • He may decide the consequences of providing care
    are not severe
  • Thats the responsibility of my wife..
  • I took care of the kids, they can return the
    favor
  • Or he may decide those consequences are so severe
    that he will let you put together a plan to
    mitigate them

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There are two sets of consequences
  • Extended care is caused by a cognitive and or
    physical impairment
  • By definition they severely compromise the
    individual which means
  • By definition he is no longer safe. Therefore
  • By definition providing care must be all-consuming

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  • By definition, providing care to a chronically
    ill person makes healthy caregivers chronically
    ill
  • By definition, it requires that a child put aside
    his or her life
  • By definition, providing care doesnt bring
    families together, it tears them apart
  • Put simply, if your client ever needs care over a
    period of years, his life wont end

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  • Someone elses life will end

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  • The second set of consequences is no less severe
  • By definition, paying for care requires a
    reallocation of income and assets. Therefore
  • By definition paying for extended care disrupts
    every plan established by the client and his or
    her advisor to secure financial viability during
    retirement

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  • Paying for care disrupts a
  • Tax plan
  • Plan to generate sufficient income to keep
    financial promises
  • Plan to wait out a down market
  • Special needs plan
  • Charitable giving plan
  • Plan to secure financial viability of surviving
    spouse

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  • Consequences are mitigated, not by a product but
    a plan
  • The plan is to keep the client safe in the
    community while
  • Preserving the emotional physical wellbeing of
    those he loves
  • Preserving the retirement portfolio

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  • Once the plan is created the question is, what
    will fund it?
  • How To Sell LTCi to the Affluent

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  • Do not argue with the following objections
  • I have sufficient assets to cover the cost of
    care or What if I never use LTCi
  • Rather agree and then, in a matter of fact tone
    explain

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  • You can, but if I may, let me share a couple of
    observations
  • Reagrdless of your financial resources it doesnt
    answer three critical issues
  • Who will provide the care?
  • Where will it be provided?
  • How will it be coordinated over the years?
  • Explain that by definition he would not be able
    to make those decisions which means his family
    would be forced to

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  • Then explain the true cost of care
  • Liquidity
  • The taxes on liquidating assets
  • Market timing
  • Length of time care could be needed
  • Lost investment opportunity

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  • WealthSecure
  • A web based program that
  • quantifies the cost of self-insuring

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  • WealthSecure allows you to confidently answer the
    two classic objections raised by the affluent
  • I can self-insure the cost
  • What if I never use long-term care insurance?
  • by providing the tools you need to illustrate
    the consequences of those statements. The client
    can then make his or her own decision as to
    whether he wants to self-insure the cost

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Heres how it works
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  • You are provided with a comprehensive program
    that allows you to input
  • The clients current projected income at
    retirement
  • Current projected return on investments
  • Projected costs of care
  • Illustrations are then presented that address

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  • What if I never use the product
  • WealthSecure integrates the products return of
    premium at death option with state tax credit or
    deduction (f available) to illustrate
  • How, if LTCi is never used, the total
    transaction essentially become revenue neutral
    no loss of premium and minimum loss of investment
    opportunity

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  • Ill simply self-fund the event
  • The program gives a comprehensive analysis of the
    true financial cost of self-insuring. It
    addresses
  • The tax consequences, in effect showing that
    there is a substantial levy on paying for care
  • The lost investment opportunity on those funds
  • You are reminded to suggest that using these
    funds came from the sale of assets at the top of
    the market

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And then the client is given an analysis of how
LTCi is a sound investment if care is ever needed
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  • The program puts into simple to understand
    numbers how LTCi becomes an investment. Heres
    how
  • Cost and length of care assumptions are extended
    to a definable cost. Then
  • Net LTCi payments (actual payout less premium and
    lost investment opportunity) are deducted from
    the cost of care. The client is then left with
  • An internal rate of return

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Case study Wealthy NY investor(NY grants a 20
state tax credit)
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Profile
  • Financial picture
  • 700,000 of CDs and equivalents
  • 6,000,000 IRA 401k
  • 5 earnings rate before tax on funds
  • 45 tax bracket
  • Will need LTC at age 80 for 8 years
  • 175,200 annual cost in 2010 _at_ 3.5 CPI
  • Client _at_ age 60 pays 8,000 per year for lifetime
    benefit
  • 400 per day
  • 5 simple COLA
  • Return of premium

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Analysis if LTCi is never used
  • Age at date of death 80
  • Cumulative net of tax premium x 20
    years 134,400
  • Value of premium if invested _at_ 3.5 x 20
    yrs 189,035
  • Refund at death 168,000
  • Loss (21,035)
  • Net Present value _at_ 3.5 (10,571)

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or the client can use his IRA to self- fund care
  • Value of IRA age 80 _at_ 5 15,919,786
  • Cost of care per year for 8 years
    2,813,808
  • Tax consequences assuming a 40 bracket
  • 2,813,808 x 45 1,266,213.00
  • 2,813,808 for care 1,266,213 tax
    (4,080,021)
  • IRA start 15,919,786 - 3,939,331
    11,839,765
  • Versus net present value loss of 10,571 if care
    is never needed

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or LTCi is used
  • At age 80 (year 21 of the policy) for 8 years
  • 24 hour home care for 8 years 2,813,808
  • LTCi benefit paid after 8 years 2,505,600
  • Investment account
  • (premium invested _at_ 3.5 x 20) (
    189,035)
  • Gain from investment 2,316,565
  • Net out of pocket not
  • factoring premium ( 308,208)

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  • Illustrations can be crafted for
  • Non- New York investor
  • Highly compensated executives
  • Public C-Corporations

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  • Positioning yourself with
  • Centers Of Influence

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  • You should not position yourself as a long-term
    care insurance professional
  • You are a professional in the filed of extended
    care planning
  • Extended care is not a product issue, its a
    planning issue
  • Your job is to educate COIs about a set of
    consequences that if left unaddressed by him or
    her will cause damage to the clients family

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  • The cost?
  • Just 69.95.
  • Thats more than 60 off the regular
  • 149.95 price

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  • For more information go to
  • www.wealthsecure.com/brochurecontact.com
  • To watch a video demonstration go to
  • www.wealthsecure.com/video.asp
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