Title: The Emergent Conversation: a Professors Reflections
1The Emergent Conversation a Professors
Reflections
2Outline
- I. Theological Strengths of Emergent Church
- A. Mystery
- B. Community
- C. Cosmic/Holistic Redemption
- II. Overplayed Strengths may become Weaknesses
- A. Mystery
- 1. questions about revelation
- 2. questions about Scripture
- B. Community
3Outline
- C. Cosmic/Holistic Redemption
- 1. relative unimportance of the afterlife
- 2. questions about the substitutionary atonement
- 3. nature and existence of hell
- 4. other religions
- III. A Calvinist Critique
- A. Common Grace Antithesis
- B. Why Our Beliefs Matter
- C. What About Hell?
- D. The Relation Between This Life and the Next
4Theological Strengths of the Emergent Church
- 1. Mystery
- 2. Community
- 3. Cosmic/Holistic Redemption
5Overplayed Strengths may become Weaknesses
- A. Mystery so much mystery that we dont know
anything? - 1. Questions about Revelation
Revelation of God in Christ
6Mystery
- 2. Questions about Scripture
- a. Its role in our web of beliefs
- 1) Gods existence grants confidence in the
deliverances of reason. - 2) Scripture grants access to the truths which
transcend reason. - b. Inspiration and Inerrancy
- Interestingly, when Scripture talks about
itself, it doesnt use the language we often use
in our explanations of its value. For modern
Western Christians, words like authority,
inerrancy, infallibility, revelation, objective,
absolute, and literal are crucial.Hardly anyone
knows about the stories of Sir Isaac Newton, Rene
Descartes, the Enlightenment, David Hume, and
Foundationalismwhich provide the context in
which these words are so important (Generous
Orthodoxy, 164).
7Inspiration and Inerrancy
- Dan Pooles confession states that Words
like inerrancy, infallibility, and authority are
related to a philosophical approach to belief
systems that I used to hold but no longer do. I
believe that the Word of God is inerrant, but I
do not believe that the Bible is absolutely
equivalent to the phrase the Word of God as
used in the Bible.I would prefer to use the term
inherency to describe my view of Scripture
Gods inerrant Word is inherent in the Bible.
(The Last Word, 111).
8Overplayed Strengths may become Weaknesses
- B. Community so much community that doctrine
does not matter? - One feature of what is sometimes called the
emerging church is a turn from doctrines to
practices unity is built less around a list of
things one professes to believe and more around
how one pursues truth and puts beliefs into
action through practices. In this way, churches
and other similar organizationssee themselves as
communities of practice (The Last Word, 197).
9Community
- Dan summarizes Jesus take on the gospel It
wasnt hold the right beliefs, affirm the
right doctrines, or anything like that.
Instead, Jesus was clearly interested in action,
in what we do, in how we treat others especially,
and in whether we trust him enough to follow his
teaching even if it means difficulty and
persecution (The Last Word, 121). - McLaren describes the wrong, fundamentalist view
On judgment day, all God will care about is
opening up our skulls and checking our brainsto
see if we had the right notion of salvation by
grace through faith in there somewhere (The Last
Word, 136).
10Overplayed Strengths may become Weaknesses
- C. Cosmic/Holistic Redemption so much focus
on this life that we forget about the next? - 1. Relative unimportance of the afterlife
- Focus on the afterlife ?
- preoccupation with doctrine (what do I have to
believe to go to heaven?) ? - legalistic view of God (how can I overcome my
original sin and go to heaven?) ? - disregard for others in my present life. The
Last Word, 85, 134-36, 166 Generous Orthodoxy,
100.
11Cosmic/Holistic Redemption
- 2. Questions about the substitutionary atonement
- 3. Nature and existence of hell
- a. Pharisees used hell to intimidate sinners.
- b. Jesus used hell rhetorically, turning the
Pharisees threat back upon themselves. - Our problem is that we use the idea of hell
precisely the way the Pharisees did, exactly the
opposite of the way Jesus did. We say everyone
not of our elite partythe party of people who
believe in certain doctrines, however theyre
definedare excluded and will face not only our
rejection in this life but also Gods eternal
rejection and scorn forever (The Last Word,
163).
12Hell
- c. Everyone must stand before God to be judged.
Whatever is bad will be burned away in painful
loss and whatever good that remains will enter
the new earth. - You know, if God judges, forgives, and
eliminates all the bad stuff, there might not be
much left of youmaybe not enough to enjoy
heaven, maybe not enough to feel too much in hell
either (The Last Word, 137).
13Hell
- d. The traditional view of hell makes God into a
petty human being, full of anger and revenge,
who commands us to forgive our enemies but is
unwilling to do the same (The Last Word, 40). - our way of talking about hell sounds
absolutely wacky. God loves you and has a
wonderful plan for your life, we say, and hell
fry your butt in hell forever unless you do or
believe the right thing. God is a loving
father, we say, but hell treat you with a
cruelty that no human father has ever been guilty
ofeternal conscious torture (The Last Word,
75).
14Cosmic/Holistic Redemption
- 4. Other religions Jesus includes rather than
excludes - It bothered me to use exclusive and Jesus in
the same sentence. Everything about Jesus life
and message seemed to be about inclusion, not
exclusion. I couldnt figure out how anything
with eternal conscious torment in it could be
called Good News (The Last Word, 35).
15Other Religions
- (The Pharisees) rhetorical use of hell made
clear that Gods righteousness was severe and
merciless toward the undeserving. Jesus turned
their rhetoric upside down and inside out and
used hell to threaten those who excluded sinners
and other undesirables, showing that Gods
righteousness was compassionate and merciful,
that Gods kingdom welcomed the undeserving, that
for God, there was no out-group.a lot of
Christians today use hell to threaten all
non-Christians and put them in the excluded
out-group, and you can decide which pattern that
conforms to most (The Last Word, 74).
16Other Religions
- Maybe Gods plan is an opt-out plan, not an
opt-in one. If you want to stay out of the
party, you can. Nobody will force you to enjoy
it (The Last Word, 138). - Dan responds to the story of a Jew who was
brutalized by the Nazis. How am I supposed to
believe that after all Shirleys father suffered,
hes going to burn in hell forever, eternally
tortured, because he didnt believe in Jesus?
What kind of God would add his own eternal
torture to the obscenity of human torture her
father suffered? (The Last Word, 85).
17III. A Calvinist Critique
- A. Common Grace Antithesis
- 1. People do not seem that bad.
- Neil, how can I calm down? If peoples lives
end in eternal torture, if every good thing they
ever did is swept away into insignificance
because they werent one of the chosen or they
werent lucky enough to believe the right things,
how can I be calm? (The Last Word, 85).
18III. A Calvinist Critique
- 2. Whether or not they have heard of Jesus,
everyone will see their good remain and their
evil perish in the fire of judgment. - I believe that God in justice wants to exclude
from creation all that is evil and wrong. I
believe that God wants to include everyone and
everything redeemable by mercy and grace.God
shows no favorites. All will have to stand
before Gods merciful and just gaze and will be
judged by justice and mercy. In this context,
all evil will be judged and excluded, all good
saved and included, universally (The Last Word,
112).
19III. A Calvinist Critique
- B. Why Our Beliefs Matter (Why We Need to Know
and Believe the Christian Gospel to Be Saved). - 1. We are born in sin, addicted to autonomy
(Romans 118-32 512-21). - 2. Only the Holy Spirit can liberate us (Titus
35 2 Thess. 213). - 3. The Holy Spirit (internal means) uses the Word
of God (external means) to regenerate us (Romans
1013-15).
20Holy Spirit Uses the Word
- Martin Luther Outwardly (God) deals with
us through the oral Word, or the Gospel and
through visible signs, as Baptism and the Lords
Supper. Inwardly He deals with us through the
Holy Spirit and faithbut always in such a way
and in this order that the outward means must
precede the inward means, which come afterwards
through the outward means. So, then, God has
willed that He will not give to anyone the inward
gifts (of the Spirit and faith) except through
the outward means (WA 18, 136).
21Holy Spirit Uses the Word
- John Calvin, Institutes I.9.1 Therefore the
Spirithas not the task of inventing new and
unheard-of revelations, or of forging a new kind
of doctrinebut of sealing our minds with that
very doctrine which is commended by the gospel. - Calvin, Institutes I.9.3 For by a kind of
mutual bond the Lord has joined together the
certainty of his Word and of his Spirit so that
the perfect religion of the Word may abide in our
minds when the Spirit, who causes us to
contemplate Gods face, shines and that we in
turn may embrace the Spirit with no fear of being
deceived when we recognize him in his own image,
namely, in the Word.
22Why Our Beliefs Matter
- 4. If the adherents of other religions are
already good people, then they might be able to
please God by their own efforts. But if everyone
is broken by Adams sin, then we need the Holy
Spirit to apply Christs work to our hearts. And
if Luther and Calvin are correct, this requires
knowledge of the gospel.
23A Calvinist Critique
- C. What About Hell?
- 1. The fact that Jesus used hell rhetorically
implies that he believed it is real. - 2. As with everything connected with the fall,
the existence of hell does not fit in Gods
story. Because it is evil it will never make
sense, but will always remain a mystery (Romans
1133).
24What About Hell?
- 3. Jesus went to hell, so God has suffered more
from evil than anyone. - 4. We should wish that God empties hell, but the
clearest teaching of Scripture does not give us
reason to hope for it (Matthew 713-14
Revelation 2011-15).
25A Calvinist Critique
- D. The Relation Between This Life and the Next
- 1. Martin Luther, The Freedom of a Christian
- 2. Heidelberg Catechism, Question 1 Because I
belong to him, Christ, by his Holy Spirit,
assures me of eternal life and makes me
wholeheartedly willing and ready from now on to
live for him.
26Conclusion
- A. Mystery why not embrace the divine mystery
with a robust belief in revelation and the
inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture? Indeed,
mystery is the best way to account for the dual
authorship of Scripture. - B. Community why not embrace our hunger for
vulnerable, authentic relationships with our need
for correct beliefs? Indeed, it is the doctrine
of the Trinity which supplies the rationale for
sacrificial community. - C. Cosmic/Holistic Redemption why not embrace
this life without downplaying the next? Indeed,
it is precisely our security in the next life
which motivates us for this one.