Title: Social Choice: An Overview
1Social Choice An Overview
- Michael Munger
- Duke University
- Public Choice Outreach
- GMU, Fairfax, VA
- July 2006
2Why Study Social Choice?
- Isnt a society just a bunch of people arguing?
- BT Origin of Government is disagreement,
capturing gains from exchange
3Why Study Social Choice Contract?
- Discussion must be concentrated on the "margins"
of variation in political institutions, not on
the "totality" of such institutions, and the
relevant question becomes one of criteria through
which the several possible marginal adjustments
may be arrayed. The contract theory, in this
context, may be interpreted as providing one such
criterion. Adopting the criterion implicit in the
contract theory, the analysis of political
institutions asks On what changes in the
existing set of rules defining the political
order can all citizens agree? This embodiment of
the unanimity rule for all basic, structural
reforms in political institutions, in the
constitution, reflects the individualistic ethic
in its broadest sense. (Calculus, Buchanan
Appendix)
4Why Study Social Choice?
- What does justice mean? Fairness? Do these
words just mean whatever the speaker wants, or do
they have objective meanings? - Is it more important to have
- Liberty?
- Justice?
- Security?
Justice
Security
Liberty
5Common Heritage, Though Different Schools
What about it, Dad?
6The Right Thing
- There may not be any one right thing to do. It
depends. - It is the nature of collective choices that they
are unitary One defense budget, one standard
for pollution, and so on. - Asking What Will We Do? begs the question. The
real question is - Why Do You Think There is a We?
- Buchanan and Tullocks Two Levels Cant let
the majority decide what the majority gets to
decide
7Coherence and Legitimacy
- Can a group of people who disagree come to a
consensus? How would this work? Why would we
believe that the consensus is any more than an
imperfect choice? - Do the choices of majorities tell us anything
about the right thing to do in the face of
disagreement? - Is there such a thing as the majority, which we
just have to discover through voting or some
political process? - I wantyou wantwhat do we want?
8Institutional Design
- Institutions are the humanly devised rules of the
game that shape and direct human interactions. - Institutions reduce uncertainty by shrinking the
choice set of all of the players. If the rules
are not formalized, the players spend too much
time arguing over the rules, and less time in
productive activities. The actual choice of
institutions, however, is hard, since there are
countless ways of choosing. What makes some
institutions better than others? - In particular, is democracy a good institution?
How would we know? What are the alternatives?
9Tacoma Narrows Bridge
10THE PROBLEMS OF SOCIAL CHOICEOverview
Absolved!!
- I. Problem of Unintended Consequences
- II. MetaSocial, or MetaChoice
- III. Three sources of legitimacy/authority
- IV. Transactions Costs and MarketsCoase,
Kaldor/Hicks, Hayek. - V. PoliticsThree problems Buchanan, Hayek,
Condorcet
11THE PROBLEMS OF SOCIAL CHOICEOverview
Absolved!!
- I. Problem of Unintended Consequences
- II. MetaSocial, or MetaChoice
- III. Three sources of legitimacy/authority
- IV. Transactions Costs and MarketsCoase,
Kaldor/Hicks, Hayek. - V. PoliticsThree problems Buchanan, Hayek,
Condorcet
12I. Unintended Consequences (Part the First)
- Unexpected aggregate consequences of individual
choice - Hog cycles
- Keynes paradox of thrift
- Hobbesian SoN/Prisoners Dilemma
13I. Unintended Consequences(Part the Second)
Social Choice is Different
- Unexpected individual consequences of aggregate
choices - Auto safety Are Safer Cars Safer?
- Alliances Most Fail When Attacked...
- Pigou vs. Coase
14Indl reactionsSome Examples...
- Auto Safety Peltzman claimed people choose
their own risk level. Tullocks Modest
Proposal
15Indl reactionsSome Examples...
- Alliances Clearly, alliances are worthless.
Nearly all alliances fail when attacked, in fact. - So an alliance agreement is of no value in
deterring attack or protecting ones citizens.
Right? - No.
16Indl ReactionsExamples--Pigou vs. Coase
- Pigous Conjecture Markets are
inefficient, as a means of allocating resources,
to the extent that the (social) opportunity cost
of a resource diverges from its price, or private
cost to the user. -
- Coasess Counter-Conjecture If property rights
are clearly and exclusively defined, and the cost
of writing and enforcing contracts is not too
high, market forces will make the opportunity
cost and the price of a resource converge.
17THE PROBLEMS OF SOCIAL CHOICEOverview
Absolved!!
- I. Problem of Unintended Consequences
- II. MetaSocial, or MetaChoice
- III. Three sources of legitimacy/authority
- IV. Transactions Costs and MarketsCoase,
Kaldor/Hicks, Hayek. - V. PoliticsThree problems Buchanan, Hayek,
Condorcet
18II. Social metaChoice or MetaSocial Choice?
- Choice of rules creates the societyThe society
is constituted by its constitution. - Choice of basic allocations, distributions of
power and wealth - Partition of choice authority / legitimacy
19Social metaChoice or MetaSocial Choice?
- Choice of rules creates the societyThe society
is constituted by its constitution. - Constitutional Political Economy
20Social metaChoice or MetaSocial Choice?
- Choice of basic allocations, distributions of
power and wealth - PPF
- Bergson-Samuelson SWF
- Secular Deism
21Social metaChoice or MetaSocial Choice?
Roses
PPF 2
PPF 1
Guns
22Social metaChoice or MetaSocial Choice?
Bergson-Samuelson
Roses
PPF
SWF
Guns
23Social metaChoice or MetaSocial Choice?
Bergson-Samuelson Deism Two Welfare Theorems
Roses
Guns
24Social metaChoice or MetaSocial Choice?
Arrow No SWF!!! Buchanan Ontology
Roses
Guns
25THE PROBLEMS OF SOCIAL CHOICEOverview
Absolved!!
- I. Problem of Unintended Consequences
- II. MetaSocial, or MetaChoice
- III. Three sources of legitimacy/authority
- IV. Transactions Costs and MarketsCoase,
Kaldor/Hicks, Hayek. - V. PoliticsThree problems Buchanan, Hayek,
Condorcet
26Legitimacy/Authority Hobbes or Hume?
- The origin of civil government and the major
influences in its development may be almost
wholly nonrational in the sense that explanation
on a contractual basis is possible. Societies
form governments and change governments for a
variety of reasons, many of which remain
mysterious and far below the level of objective,
scientific analysis. Political institutions, like
languages, get changed, almost beyond
recognition, by the gradual and largely
unconscious modification imposed on them by the
movement through time. - In this sense political society can be said to
develop and to grow organically and, if the
purpose of investigation is solely that of
explaining such growth, there is perhaps little
purpose in inventing anything like the
contractual apparatus. (Calculus, Buchanan
Appendix)
27Legitimacy/AuthorityHobbes or Hume?
- Partition of choice authority / legitimacy
- My own view
- Three sources of authority, or legitimate
decision-making, in any society - Politics/Democracy
- Experts/Bureaucracy
- Markets
- Munger (2000), Analyzing Policy, W.W. Norton
28Markets
Experts
Politics
29Markets
- Efficiency Policies
- Market Structure
- Control Externalities
- Public Goods
- Information Asymmetry
- Equity Policies
- Income Redistribution
- Resource Distribution
- Control Externalities
- Institutional Reform Policies
- Information
- Values (Efficiency v. Equity)
- Institutional Design
Experts
Politics
30Markets
- Efficiency Policies
- Market Structure
- Control Externalities
- Public Goods
- Information Asymmetry
- Equity Policies
- Income Redistribution
- Resource Distribution
- Control Externalities
- Institutional Reform Policies
- Information
- Values (Efficiency v. Equity)
- Institutional Design
Experts
Politics
Poli Sci (election / campaign finance reform,
etc.)
31Markets
From whence? To what effect?
- Efficiency Policies
- Market Structure
- Control Externalities
- Public Goods
- Information Asymmetry
- Equity Policies
- Income Redistribution
- Resource Distribution
- Control Externalities
- Institutional Reform Policies
- Information
- Values (Efficiency v. Equity)
- Institutional Design
Experts
Politics
32THE PROBLEMS OF SOCIAL CHOICEOverview
Absolved!!
- I. Problem of Unintended Consequences
- II. MetaSocial, or MetaChoice
- III. Three sources of legitimacy/authority
- IV. Transactions Costs and MarketsCoase,
Kaldor/Hicks, Hayek. - V. PoliticsThree problems Buchanan, Hayek,
Condorcet
33Focus for a moment on Markets.
- Markets are not the absence of other sources of
authority. Markets do not just happen. - On the other hand, unless the other sources of
authority actively prevent market development,
then at least some rudimentary market processes
will nearly always spring up. - Active markets tend to drive prices down toward
production costs. Corporations and firms prefer
profits go up, not down. So the self-interest of
firms is generally to try to suppress the
workings of markets. - Fortunately, markets are robust enough that they
are not easily suppressed, without the active
complicity of one of the other sources of
authority.
34Preconditions for Markets(Necessary Conditions)
- Differences in goals, tastes, or desires (diverse
preferences) - Differences in endowments of productive resources
and personal talents (diverse endowments) - Declining average costs as more output is
produced (economies of scale) - Declining average costs as the scope of action of
one producer is decreased (specialization and
division of labor)
35Gains From Trade
- Gains from trade Differences in endowments, or
differences in preferences, result in improved
welfare for all participants, as long as trades
are informed and voluntary. This is a benefit in
consumption, since by rearranging the consumption
bundles among citizens, we can make everyone
better off, even though there is no increase in
the total amount of goods available for
consumption. Magic? No, just markets.
36Gains in Productive Efficiency
- By allowing entrepreneurs to take advantage of
economies of scale, or economies accruing to
increased specialization, markets foster economic
growth. An increase in the level of economic
activity means growth in the total amount of
consumption goods available to citizens.
Increased efficiency in production means that
more can be produced with the same resources,
again creating the potential for everyone to be
better off.
37Bonus Reductions in transactions costs, using
information transmitted by prices
- Quite separate from efficiency in the allocation
of consumption goods (i.e., ensuring all gains
from trade are exhausted) and efficiency in the
allocation of productive resources, markets also
provide the important service of providing
information. Prices convey information about
relative scarcity in a concise, yet effective
way.
38Information, Tastes, and Culture
- The peculiar character of the problem of a
rational economic order is determined precisely
by the fact that the knowledge of the
circumstances of which we must make use never
exists in concentrated or integrated form but
solely as the dispersed bits of incomplete and
frequently contradictory knowledge which all the
separate individuals possess. The economic
problem of society is thus not merely a problem
of how to allocate "given" resourcesif "given"
is taken to mean given to a single mind which
deliberately solves the problem set by these
"data." It is rather a problem of how to secure
the best use of resources known to any of the
members of society, for ends whose relative
importance only these individuals know. Or, to
put it briefly, it is a problem of the
utilization of knowledge which is not given to
anyone in its totality. (F.A. Hayek, 1945, AER).
39Four Ways to Allocate Resources in the Face of
Scarcity
- 1. Price System (market) Resources
are directed to their highest-valued use, so that
whoever is willing to pay the most (either in
terms of other valuable goods, or in currency)
gets to control the resource. - Big winners People with lots of money, or with
talents or resources the society values highly. - Disadvantages There are two. (a) Poor people
may get too little, creating ethical problems of
equity. (b) Independently of their basis in
justice, market allocations may be politically
untenable, if democratically-based authority is
in a position to impose redistributive or
confiscatory taxes.
40Four Ways to Allocate Resources in the Face of
Scarcity
- 2. Queuing A queue is a line. Queuing
means a system of allocation based on waiting
your turn. So, first in line is first in
priority. If all the resource is used up before
your turn, you lose out. - Big winners People with lots of time (actually,
a low opportunity cost of time spent waiting in
line). - Disadvantages There are two. (a) People
standing in line incur lots of deadweight
losses, or time wasted, for no gain in
consumption or productivity. (b) There is no
reason to believe that resources are directed to
their highest valued uses black markets
41Four Ways to Allocate Resources in the Face of
Scarcity
- 3. Chance Lotteries, drawings, or
other random selection processes mean everyone
has an equal chance of winning. - Big winners No individual is a winner from the
process, because in terms of expected value
everyone is treated the same. From an ethical
perspective, however, this may be an advantage. - Disadvantage By definition, allocation is
random. The person who actually gets the
resource may value it at only a fraction of its
worth to someone else. Opportunity cost is
explicitly ignored in random processes.
Consequently, chance allocations evoke secondary
markets for reallocating by price.
42Four Ways to Allocate Resources in the Face of
Scarcity
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- 4. Authority/Discretion Allocations can be
made by experts, party officials, elected
leaders, or central planners. This sort of
allocation process is also called a command
system. - Big winners Guess who the party officials,
their friends, and family! Alternatively, the
beneficiaries of the policy may be those targeted
by the policy, if discretion is used to avoid
corruption and follow the rules. - Disadvantage There are two. (a) Lose the
information inherent in prices. (b) Corruption
is irresistible.
43Can Markets Plan the Economy?
-
- Adam Smiths invisible hand
- Social planner, and the farmer
44My Plan Your Plan ? Our PlanSocialist
Calculation Debate
- This is not a dispute about whether planning is
to be done or not. It is a dispute as to whether
planning is to be done centrally, by one
authority for the whole economic system, or is to
be divided among many individuals. Planning in
the specific sense in which the term is used in
contemporary controversy necessarily means
central planningdirection of the whole economic
system according to one unified plan.
Competition, on the other hand, means
decentralized planning by many separate persons.
The halfway house between the two, about which
many people talk but which few like when they see
it, is the delegation of planning to organized
industries, or, in other words, monopoly.
(Hayek, 1945).
45Division of Labor
- It is the maxim of every prudent master of a
family, never to attempt to make at home what it
will cost him more to make than buy. The taylor
does not attempt to make his own shoes, but buys
them of the shoemaker. The shoemaker does not
attempt to make his own clothes, but employes a
taylor. The farmer attempts to make neither the
one nor the other, but employs those different
artificers. All of them find it for their
interest to employ their whole industry in a way
in which they have some advantage over their
neighbours, and to purchase with a part of its
produce, or what is the same thing, with the
price of a part of it, whatever else they have
occasion for. (WoN, p. 485).
46Specialization
- To take an example, therefore, from a very
trifling manufacture but one in which the
division of labour has been very often taken
notice of, the trade of the pin-maker a workman
not educated to this business (which the division
of labour has rendered a distinct trade), nor
acquainted with the use of the machinery employed
in it (to the invention of which the same
division of labour has probably given occasion),
could scarce, perhaps, with his utmost industry,
make one pin in a day, and certainly could not
make twenty. But in the way in which this
business is now carried on, not only the whole
work is a peculiar trade, but it is divided into
a number of branches, of which the greater part
are likewise peculiar trades. ... the important
business of making a pin is, in this manner,
divided into about eighteen distinct operation,
which, in some manufactories, are all performed
by distinct hands, though in others the same man
will sometimes perform two or three of them. I
have seen a small manufactory of this kind where
ten men only were employed, and where some of
them consequently performed two or three distinct
operations. But though they were very poor, and
therefore but indifferently accommodated with the
necessary machinery, they could, when they
exerted themselves, make among them about twelve
pounds of pins in a day. There are in a pound
upwards of four thousand pins of middling size.
Those ten persons, therefore, could make among
them upwards of forty eight thousand pins in a
day. But if they had all wrought separately and
independently, and without any of them having
been educated to this peculiar business, they
certainly could not each of them have made
twenty, perhaps not one pin in a day. (WoN, pp.
4-5).
47Division of Labor is the Most Powerful Force for
Social Change the World has EVER Known
- Division of labor is limited by the extent of the
market - Globalization would result from DoL regardless of
colonialization or any other conscious policy of
governments - But, is it good? Is it just? Is it inevitable?
Would we CHOOSE it, if the choice were presented?
Or, is it just the aggregate unintended
consequence of indl choice?
48Markets.
- Coase
- Kaldor-Hicks
- Potential Pareto
- Hayek
49THE PROBLEMS OF SOCIAL CHOICEOverview
Absolved!!
- I. Problem of Unintended Consequences
- II. MetaSocial, or MetaChoice
- III. Three sources of legitimacy/authority
- IV. Transactions Costs and MarketsCoase,
Kaldor/Hicks, Hayek. - V. PoliticsThree problems Buchanan, Hayek,
Condorcet
50Step back for a moment.The Fundamental Human
Problem(according to Munger)
- How can we construct or preserve institutions
that make individual self-interest not
inconsistent with the common good?
51Origins of Markets
- Differences in endowments
- Differences in preferences
- Technical cost conditions (div of labor,
economies of scale, increased dexterity,
innovations in tool design)
52Origins of Government Institutions
- Disagreement/exchange (BT)
- Capture gains from trade by reducing transactions
costs - Make public goods possible
53Origins of Government Institutions
- What if we all wanted the same thing? Would
government even be necessary? - It would. Because we do all want the same thing
more. - On disagreement, Charles IV
- My cousin Francis and I are in perfect accordhe
wants Milan and so do I.
54Collective ChoicesWhat is truth? said jesting
Pilate, and would not stay for an answer.
- True Statements?
- Democracy means rule by the people
- Democracy is the best form of government
- The many are wiser than any one person
- Morality is defined by majorityDemocracy is a
means of discovering truth
55Collective v. Public Buchanan Problem
Property of Choice Property of Good Individual Decision I can choose, alone and without interference Collective Decision Choices are made by a group, and are binding on all
Private Decision My choice has no consequence for your welfare Liberty of the individual What socks should I wear? Whom should I marry? Tyranny of the majority Invasion of privacy Theft of property rights
Public Decision My choices affect your welfare Underinvestment, or else theft by the minority Air or water pollution Education Liberty of the group How much to spend on defense? How to take care of the poor?
56Central Questions
- Can reasonable people differ? Can a reasonable
person oppose gay marriage? Can a reasonable
person be pro-life? Is it possible to support
the war in Iraq? - What is the basis of disagreement
- Chocolate vs. Vanilla? In politics, values. Are
they primitives? Deliberation wont help. - Different information sets? Evidence about
causes, different understandings of means-ends
relations. Deliberation might help. - Is there a fact of the matter?
57Central Questions
- Is it true that the many are wiser than any one?
Many people have argued this claim. - For it is possible that the many, no one of whom
taken singly is a sound man, may yet, taken all
together, be better than the few, not
individually, but collectively. (Aristotle,
Politics, Book I, Chapter 11) - Some important analytical support, under some
circumstances. Condorcets Jury Theorem, for
example.
58Central Questions
- The real problems of political/democratic choice
- Scope of government/collective power the
Buchanan problem - Information of time and place the Hayek problem
- Coherence and legitimacy The Condorcet / Arrow
problem
59Scope
- What can government decide? How would we decide
what government can decide? - What do I get to decide, by myself? What things
does my family get to decide? - Suppose a group of people want to decide
something for me, for my own good? Can they do
that? How could I stop them?
60P.J. ORourkeInformation and Scope Problems of MR
- Now, majority rule is a precious, sacred thing
worth dying for. Butlike other precious, sacred
things, such as the home and the familyit's not
only worth dying for it can make you wish you
were dead. Imagine if all of life were determined
by majority rule. Every meal would be a pizza.
Every pair of pants, even those in a Brooks
Brothers suit, would be stone-washed denim.
Celebrity diets and exercise books would be the
only thing on the shelves at the library.
Andsince women are a majority of the population,
we'd all be married to Mel Gibson. (Parliament of
Whores, 1991, p. 5).
61James Buchanan Like Hobbes, too much liberty?
- What should government be allowed to do? What
is the appropriate sphere of political action?
How large a share national product should be
available for political disposition? What sort of
political decision-structures should be adopted
at the constitutional stage? Under what
conditions and to what extent should individuals
be franchised? (Politics Without Romance.)
62Coherence and Legitimacy
- Can a group of people who disagree come to a
consensus? How would this work? Why would we
believe that the consensus is any more than an
imperfect choice? - Do the choices of majorities tell us anything
about the right thing to do? - Is there such a thing as the majority, which we
just have to discover through voting or some
political process? - I wantyou wantwhat do we want?
63Problem of the U.S. in Iraq
64Democratic Choices War in Iraq
- Youve got to help me out hereplay along!
- YOUR Preferences and beliefs, as assigned card.
REALLY! Accept the premise, and act like those
are your preferences. Three choices - No war N
- Aggressive war W
- Police/political means P
65Choices War in Iraq
- One possibility isolationist variant of Powell
doctrine - N gt W gt P
- We should not get involved.
- But, if we do, we should go in with overwhelming
force. - Worst thing is to expose our troops/workers in a
limited police action, depend on the U.N. - If your LAST name starts with A-F, this is YOU!
66Choices War in Iraq
- Another possibility Rummy World
- W gt P gt N
- Iraq/Saddam is an imminent threat, will develop
WMD. - If not war, then must vigorously pursue sanctions
- Worst thing is to do nothing, relax sanctions and
let Iraq become nuclear power - If your LAST name starts with G-N, this is YOU!
67Choices War in Iraq
- Final possibility Prudent Dove
- P gt N gt W
- Let sanctions and inspections do their work,
because Iraq is a potential danger to its
neighbors and the world - We have no good claim to just war, so next best
is to do nothing - Worst thing is to use war against a nation that
has made no overt attack on the U.S. - If your LAST name starts with O-Z, this is YOU!
68Choices War in Iraq
- Sowe have disagreement
- Prudent dove wants to use P, police action
- Rummy wants war
- Isolationists would prefer to stay far away from
foreign entanglements, so do nothing.
69Choices War in Iraq
- Lets use democracy, the pure kind where the
people make the choice directly. - First, lets decide whether to use force, or do
nothing. - Vote P vs. W to decide which activity is better,
and then vote that against N. That way, we are
comparing the best do something against do
nothing.
70Choices War in Iraq
- So, P loses to W.
- What remains is to put W up against N. How
about that? - It turns out N beats W, and W beats P.
71Choices War in Iraq
- Consider what just happened. Simply by changing
the order in which we consider the alternatives,
I could generate as the winner any one of the
three alternatives. - Choosing the agenda, then, is tantamount to
choosing the outcome. - Is this just a conjurers trick, or does it tell
us something about democracy?
72Choices War in Iraq
- If there are three (or more) alternatives, and
there is disagreement, then democracy may be
radically indeterminate. - More simply, there is no correct answer to the
question, What do the people want? - In fact, some majority opposes every alternative.
73Choices War in Iraq
- Here is the problem
- I/P Rummy Prud Dove
- N W P Best
- W P N Middle
- P N W Worst
- Majority preferences
- W gt P gt N gt W
- Endless, infinite cycling over alternatives. Not
a tie, but a literal perpetual motion machine
74But this is nonsense meetings end
- That is what should terrify you meetings end,
and things get decided. The point is that we are
rarely presented with three or more alternatives.
We usually are presented with two. How are
those two chosen? - The Tomasi Revolution coalitions form,
charismatic people take power. Not the will of
the people, but the force of will of some
demogogue or tyrant - If the rules matter to this extent, that means
that procedures, not preferences, determine
outcomes. And elites control procedures.
75Democracy works fine. So long as everyone agrees
- But if there is disagreement, and at least three
alternatives, then a majority opposes every
available choice. So, democracy fails us when we
need it most! - Since some choice has to be made, we are left
with an outcome that is either - Imposed (tyranny)
- Arbitrary (random or procedure-driven)
- In either case, democratic choice is chimerical
- Dictatorship with the trappings of democracy
76The worst of all worlds
- Democracy without constitutional liberalism
- 1. Rule of law, protections of property and
liberty - 2. Limits on scope of issues within the
jurisdiction of collective choice - Democracy without these is the most terrifying
kind of tyranny you can imagine. Americans, and
the West, are confused about good government.
The key is constitutional liberalism, not
democracy.
77Three Problems in Politics as Solution for Social
Choice Dilemmas
- Buchanan Problem Scope
- Hayek Problem Information
- Condorcet / Arrow Problem Coherence
78One Further Problem.Leadership Social Choice?
- Why do we put the pictures of leader on postage
stamps? - So we may thumb their noses, and lick their
hinder parts. - What role can leadership play in a democracy?
Can leaders forebear, resisting the temptation to
use the immanent potential for cycles to their
own advantage?
79- Shakespeares Tragedy of Coriolanus Act II, Sc
3 - BOTH CITIZENS. The gods give you joy, sir,
heartily! (Exeunt citizens) - CORIOLANUS. Most sweet voices!
- Better it is to die, better to
starve, - Than crave the hire which first we
do deserve. - Why in this wolvish toge should I
stand here - To beg of Hob and Dick that do
appear - Their needless vouches? Custom
calls me to't. - What custom wills, in all things
should we do't, - The dust on antique time would lie
unswept, - And mountainous error be too highly
heap'd - For truth to o'erpeer. Rather than
fool it so, - Let the high office and the honour
go - To one that would do thus. I am
half through - The one part suffered, the other
will I do.
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