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Title: EVLA Advisory Committee Meeting


1
Where From Here?
  • Rick Perley

2
Topics
  • Fate of Phase II Proposal.
  • Evolution of Phase II?
  • Connections to SKA, and others.
  • Planning for next Decadal Survey.

3
A Brief History of The Sad Fate of Phase II
  • Phase I proposal submitted May 2000. High
    resolution, E-config., and low frequency
    components removed for technical and budget
    reasons.
  • Phase II proposal development process lengthy.
    About 6 person-years involved. Proposal
    submitted April 2004, following considerable
    internal (NRAO and AUI) review.
  • Review process lengthy. NSF showed little
    enthusiasm. Reviewer reports mixed, but mostly
    Excellent and V.Good.
  • Reverse Site Visit held at NSF in June, 2005.
    Reviewers were Balick, Feigelson, Heiles, Elvis,
    Bartos, Weiler.
  • NSF informed AUI in December 2005 the proposal
    would not be funded without explanation or
    suggestions.

4
Why?
  • Suggested reasons for Phase II demise easy to
    list
  • Insufficient perceived support from community
    (but how to define?)
  • Insufficient effort on our part to sell (aka
    hype) the proposal. (But shouldnt this process
    be conducted before the decadal panel which we
    did, and which was eminently successful?)
  • Insufficient funds at the NSF. (Even this is
    debatable the MRE line is in good shape). The
    RSV committee was told from the start that Phase
    II could not be funded.
  • Competition from within our own community the
    USSKA proposal submitted at the same time, with
    considerable overlap in some areas.
  • The NSFs Phase II Reverse Site Committee
    recommended that we revise, rewrap, and
    re-propose, following an extensive public
    advertisement campaign.
  • The NSF declined to accept this recommendation.

5
Reasons to Resubmit?
  • High resolution, high sensitivity astronomy is
    important (but perhaps not fashionable). Full
    EVLAs capabilities truly unique.
  • The science case is very strong, although
    evidently not appreciated or understood by the
    non-radio community.
  • There is no other major radio proposal anywhere
    close to fruition.
  • The SKA is becoming (has become!) a low-frequency
    instrument, and will not be constructed in the
    US.
  • This evolution leaves open the 1 50 GHz
    frequency range where the EVLA performs best,
    for development.
  • The EVLA1 EVLA2 VLBA continuity arguments
    remain valid.

6
Reasons to Not Resubmit
  • No major ground-based proposal ever gets funded
    late in the 2nd half of a decade.
  • Existing proposal already labelled (unjustly) as
    a loser perceptions are hard to counteract.
  • Much of the community has been sold on the SKA
    Vision without clear understanding of the time
    and cost involved and are not receptive to a
    modest proposal like Phase II.
  • We need to get a community consensus on what
    they want, then lead the effort to get it.
    This cant be done prior to the formation of the
    next Decadal Committee.
  • We dont have the staff resources to take the RSV
    Committees advice, even if we wanted to.

7
Relations with the SKA, and USSKA
  • If nothing else, the SKA initiative has
    commandeered the agenda despite its impossible
    cost and timescale.
  • Support from SKA and USSKA for EVLA, particularly
    Phase II, has been lukewarm at best.
  • General perception that NRAO must integrate US
    communitys SKA interests into our planning and
    development.
  • We must clearly do better at interacting with the
    US community than than in past, but our resources
    are limited, and the sense of the community
    unclear.
  • Unclear (to me, at least) just where the USSKA
    is, and where it wants to go.

8
Where Do We Go?
  • It is now clear that the International SKA is
    moving towards a low-frequency (lt 2 GHz)
    facility, probably located in western Australia.
  • This opens up an opportunity to develop a high
    frequency SKA to cover 1 50 GHz.
  • Our suggestion Evolve Phase II to take over
    high frequency SKA, integrate/expand Phase I,
    location in NM, expansion of the Phase II
    proposal.
  • Develop this over next 3 years, sell to and
    convince the US astronomical community, sell to
    next Decadal Panel.
  • Have full proposal ready for submission to NSF on
    the same day the Decadal Panel recommendations
    are released.
  • This strategy worked for Phase I
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