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Title: European small and medium sized telescopes


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European small and medium sized telescopes
  • Paul Murdin
  • Particle Physics Astronomy Research Council

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European astronomical telescopes
  • Telescopes in or (at least partly) for Europe
  • Astronomical Almanac 1981-84
  • Sky and Telescope August 2000 (d gt 2.3m)
  • SEDS http//www.seds.org/billa/bigeyes.htm
  • FutureFrame http//www.futureframe.de/astro/instr/
    emopt.htm
  • plus ad hoc updates
  • There is not an comprehensive list
  • A job for Opticon ?

3
Telescope locations
  • Remote from European city areas, requiring boat
    or plane trip
  • On a mountain location but within, say, two
    hours' drive from a European city
  • Within an easy hour's journey from a European
    city
  • Robotic or remotely operated telescopes starting
    to emerge

4
European telescopes
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European telescopes
  • There are natural groupings in the distributions
  • There is a clear break at 5m aperture
  • There are groups as follows
  • 3.5 - 4.2 m (9 telescopes)
  • 2.2 - 2.64 m (7)
  • 1.2 - 2.0 m (18)
  • 1 metre (15?)

6
Scope of Opticon
  • The scope of the Opticon WG on SMTs makes almost
    consistent sense
  • Telescopes at national, bilateral or
    international observatories with a European
    component
  • Telescopes between 1m and 5m
  • Telescopes at mountain top observatory sites

7
Training for astronomical research
  • Existing educational budgets would tend to
    support the more convenient telescopes
  • There are many conveniently located 1 m
    telescopes but much of Europe has no convenient
    access even to 1 m telescopes
  • The 2, 2.5 or 4 metre telescopes tend to be
    remote or very remote
  • Such telescopes could be exploited for the
    transition between undergraduate training (1m
    class) and professional research (4m)
  • i.e. postgraduate training

8
European confidence-building
  • There is a human motivation to study astronomy
  • It is important to build confidence in science in
    Europe
  • Astronomy is an international, scientific venture
  • Astronomy is a motivational inspiration for
    developing economies
  • Enlarge access to the high status observatories

9
Use of Small-Medium Telescopes
  • General purposes
  • Support of 8 metre class telescopes
  • Dedicated programmes, e.g.
  • variable star monitoring (e.g. machos)
  • extra-solar planet, SN or NEO searches
  • surveys (e.g. to feed from/to 8 m telescopes or
    satellites)
  • Education and training
  • Postgraduate education and pilot projects
  • Enlarge astronomical capability in the developing
    European academic communities

10
Telescope groupings
  • Size is not the only relevant parameter, but..
  • ..the groupings could form an organisational
    basis for European coordination
  • On a voluntary basis (of course)
  • group telescopes of similar size and similar
    purpose
  • trade telescope time within a group
  • coordinate instrument availability

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A grouping
  • Both hemispheres (N S)
  • Bright/dark use at each telescope
  • Common instruments (camera, spectrograph)
    rationally distributed
  • Rare instruments not duplicated
  • Decide the training role (if any)

12
Access within a group
  • Possibly could move to a common time allocation
    process..
  • ..but could simply liberalise existing procedures
  • Establish a quota of time (e.g. 20) for freer
    access to astronomers outside the existing
    arrangements?
  • ..or let the quota establish itself?

13
Trading time
  • Within a group of similar sized telescopes the
    unit could be simply the night (dark or bright?)
  • Obtain observing time by merit but pay money for
    it under an access programmes
  • /or
  • Keep account of time swapped within the group and
    draw accounts in retrospect
  • After a period, perhaps take special measures
    to redress any imbalance

14
Conclusions
  • I have done no more than offer some thoughts on
    the topics we need to address..
  • ..and tried to bring together some of the
    directions in which we could go
  • There is an existence proof of some of the
    solutions
  • We need to address these issues practically in
    this Opticon working group
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