Title: Molecular and other biotech
1Molecular and other biotech
- Dag Lindgren
- Uppsala 14 maj
2Reservation I am not very suitable to make this
presentation or task, because I am too negatively
biased. It costs non-biotech genetics at SLU a
high price is less relevance for coming
generations and Swedish forestry.
3- Normally it takes long time before an idea to
practice. - Practice must normally start slow in small scale
before it becomes a main method. - The small development scale is not
implementation, but research funded by research
grants or development money, not routine
breeding. - It is first when something is seen a routine
breeding financed by routine breeding it is
implemented. - To be implemented in routine breeding in ten
years and thus qualify for preparations according
to this document, most methods should already now
been used for development in compartments of the
breeding population (like pine cuttings for
breeding). To really trust in a new method it
should be used in a compartment for a cycle, that
is gt20 years! Research with external funding,
where normally the driving force is University
scientists is not implementation.Promising
progress does not mean breeding routine within
10 years. - New methods will usually complement old ones. Not
replace, but just add something. The competence
to handle trees in experiment which are managed
and measured about as it is done now will still
be needed.
4Biotech progress is often overexegarated
- We placed markers on gene maps of Scots pine
almost four decades ago. - We could identify individuals of the same clone
by markers three decades ago. - We measured pollen contamination with markers two
decades ago. - We talked about GMOs two decades ago.
- We have worked towards clonal forestry for spruce
in four decades. (Clonal forestry seems as the
horizon, it does not come closer by walking
towards it)
5Molecular markers - identification
- The molecular markers become more powerful during
the decades. But everything is not a revolution
by several magnitudes, but say a factor 3 in 20
years as price tag for the same pollen
contamination investigation and the same
competence needed. Larger factor if big scaled
(five man-years) and for a few specific purposes.
It is seldom low-cost.
6Parentage
- It is possible to decide which (among suspects)
are the parents to a tree. That could find
immediate applications in operative breeding. - Reliability is high enough and increase.
- Costs is probably affordable for some
applications and decrease.
7- Markers can experimentally estimate effective
size (status number, coancestry, group
coancestry, gene diversity), which actually is a
requirement in BC. (Similar to Wrights
F-statistics, FST) Can monitor changes of these
parameters over time. Routine monitoring by
Skogforsk could be discussed, I think it may be
too early to make it routine the next decade. But
some scientists are keen to measure real
materials by research grants. - Inbreeding and relatedness will be better
monitored.
8Seed orchard contamination, dysfunction and male
fertility can be better studied
- This has been possible some decades, but a study
now probably get 3 times more results more
certain at the same cost as some decades ago. - We have got funding from föreningen for a seed
orchard study (Västerhus) and the first results
(300 seeds) has come. The pollen contamination is
about 50, confirming results decades ago with
less reliable markers. I had hoped that we
overestimated the problem because of inadequate
technique, but it seems we did not. - David Hall is planning a contamination study, but
he has done so some years without execution. - It feels too early to comment on the feasibility,
it was more problematic than I thought when
planning the study.
9Tag error elimination
- The breeding population could be checked for
errors in pedigree. - Erronously tagged clones occur. Yoshinary
suggests 10 on average and 50 in special cases.
Johan checked an Umeå seed orchard material and
found no error in 36 ramets. I personally checked
a Turkish seed orchard and found at least one
error among 75 ramets. - Of the magnitude almost 1 of trees in the Seed
orchard Västerhus are rootstocks which have
replaced a dead graft. We found with markers 1
mislabelled graft among 84. - I believe Swedish breeders are extremely clever
and careful, so the error-rate in breeding
material is certainly below 5. But this figure
could be good to verify! - Probably it is not justified to make it a
routine, but at least it is something which
requires more discussion. - I suggest Skogforsk initiates a project to
estimate different type of identification errors
connected to breeding and seed orchards. With the
results, it can be discussed if some type of
routine.
10Routine DNA sampling?
- It may be a good idea to routinely store a DNA
sample of every founder of the breeding
population forever? (Gene conservation). To be
able to do investigations in the future and check
impact of the founders on the Swedish forest in
some distant future. The option will be gone
forever soon to sample the founders. I guess it
is cheap, it just mean collection and storage of
a small piece of tissue. - I suggest a feasibility study is done by someone
at Skogforsk. - Do not forget that it is also politically correct.
11- Markers help to study gene-flow, alien genes,
domestication of genes, pollen flight in natural
forests, genetic structure of natural forests,
immigration history, autochtony. Skogforsk could
stimulate that such studies by Universities give
relevant information for forestry.
12Breeding without breedingPolycross breeding etc.
- I talked about that in Ekebo May 2007 and
presented ideas in detail, I will not repeat that
now, but magnification of some details will be
given in Ekebo May 2008. - I work on it with Xiao-Ru Wang, we got funds for
a minor Scots pine study, which is going on, some
material is planned to be collected outside Umeå
10 June, and we apply for a Norway spruce study
and got funding for some pilot work (e.g.
material collection), we have bought tickets for
Ekebo 28-29 May to collect material (Bo
Karlsson). - It is possible to use polycrosses for selection
forwards. I do not recommand to think about this
as a major strategy, but I recommand to compose
pollen mixes so this is feasible, if PC anyway is
done (I told how a year ago).
13Rekommendation för BWB
- Det är ganska troligt specialfall av BWB kommer
till praktisk användning i operativ förädling
inom tio år thus within the period of study. - Genomslag kan ske snabbt (no real risk involved,
need not wait a full breeding cycle for full
scale implementation, actually some ideas can be
immediatly implemented if they work) - I do not predict a large scale break-through
within the next four years, but it is not
excluded. - Skogforsk understöd forskning och stimulera
forskning på skarpa material. Have a
preparedness to implement it for real breeding.
14Markers for associations
15Marker aided selection
- Important genes may not be identifyable and
reproducible, it may just appear so. - Negative genes (inbreeding) may seem important,
thus MAS effort may result in weeding of
unimportant genes rather than selection for
important - Important gene in one genetic and physical
environment may not be important in another (thus
a lot of possible interactions not considered in
simple experiments). - Unstable genes
- Field performance is the added action of all
important genes, MAS gives just a small part of
them. - Higher selection effort for one thing means lower
for all others. The breeding stock is usually a
limited resource. - A large added administrative trouble, costs for
sampling and preparation, costs for analyses,
costs for compiling data from different sources. - If one start select for good DNA-pieces, it is an
evident risk of faster accumulation of coancestry
and subsequent inbreeding. - Growth in mature age may be the most important,
and probably too composite and complex to locate
on the gene map. - Not sufficiently dense maps yet for Swedish
conifers Insufficient polymorphy. - Riskier to change influence of one piece on the
genome beyond the natural variation, than to get
the same effect on production value by many small
changes in different parts of the genome - Genes may have many effects so a MAS indication
does not eliminate the need for field test, - Yet forbiddingly expensive.
- Etc
16MAS
- 20 years of QTL research gave us good insight
about genome organization, but no meaningful QTL
to hang the hat on. - FAO conference 2003 on MAS. From summary 2.7
Practical applications of MAS Although
documentation was limited, the current impact
seemed small - Efforts have been going on for at least a decade
for forest trees in Sweden, without coming near
to an application. - At least one scientist reasearching it in Sweden
(Reza Yasdani) got the sack and few of the
pioneers in MAS applying it to forest tree
breeding is with us any more
17Not extreme close linkage
- Cis- and trans- different in different families
- Different associations in different materials
18Associations (populationwide linkage
disequilibrium)
- Usually not large effects
- It will probably take some time (10 years) till
the pine and spruce genome will be sufficiently
densily covered. - Not that mature field, so remains to see what
will come. But linkage disequilibrium may mark
more than a family, it may be enough to get the
fine scaled gene mapping on the population level. - It may give us multi-locus markers, which would
be much more powerful for e.g. BWB than e.g.
micro-satellites.
19I searched my 50 first hits on the webI also
looked in Wicopedia
- Association mapping I found no successful
breeding operation - QTL I found no successful breeding operation
- (the limit to successful may be debated)
- Neither any student in the research school could
point at a successful commercial application.
20Place in system
- MAS research should not be seen as applied and
motivated by the possible practical applications. - Instead it should be viewed as basic research.
- Guess it is on way down internationally as both
basic and applied research. (My feeling only.)
21Domestic animals
- Still large commercial investments are done
relying on MAS variants in animals, but the real
result is uncertain and badly documented. - The documented positive experience with animals
is rather meager, mainly single genes connected
to resistance to diseases. - Patrik gave a rather pessimistic view at his
docentföreläsning.
22Agricultural Plant Breeding
- Usually they use nearly homozygous lines which
are crossed rather seldom. Markers helps to keep
track of known genes after such recombinations.
But foresters do not use lines or known genes. - A rather large share of the breeding efforts is
to make varieties marketable, thus homogenous,
stable and distinct, and markers help in that
respect. But such demands are not pressing for
forest varieties.
23MAS conclusion
- Will not be implemented in operative breeding
within ten years - The prognosis considering the large investments
under long time seems not good. Suggest it is
seen as basic research, not applied. - Associations (disequilibriums) is a possible
development, but still farer away to operative
breeding. - Associated genes may be useful as markers but
maps are still not dense enough - I suggest no support, not even mentally, from
Skogforsk. Off course Skogforsk is always helpful
with being a discussion partner, in particular
help with identifying and access to material, and
is willing to assist practically for costs paid,
but not beyond that.
24Molecular diagnostic tools
- The state of plants not always directly coupled
to the genes that control the physiological
process will be easier to record with molecular
symptoms. New measurement devices for relevant
characters can be foreseen. Then they appear and
has left the development stage Skogforsk can test.
25GMO
- That GMO will not be implemented in operative
breeding within the next decade I consider so
uncontroversial within Skogforsk, so I will not
talk much about the opportunities with GMO. - There are full GMO presentations on my web if
someone is interested, and I have given them, so
many of you have listened. My time for
presentation is limited. - I will instead talk about what I think Skogforsk
should do the next ten years.
26UPSC has now a release withGMO trees at Umeå
(Stefan Jansson)
The genotypes are not hardy, in greenhouse in
winter, so it is only a semi-release!
Perhaps the only outside GMO trees in whole EU
2006?
27GMO is bad PR, therefore Skogforsk should not be
associated with the first batches of GMO field
trials
- As there are no field trials and no plans for
real field trials it is no sacrifice. Just that
there are no field trials yet is a sufficient
argument that GMO will not be in operative
breeding in ten years. - Swedish GMO field trials should first be managed
by governmental institutions (SLU and its
Research Parks). - To manage GMO trials is a skill and competence,
which need to be developed at SLU before
Skogforsk takes over and learn from SLU
experiences.
28- The first batches of GMO field trials has a too
basic character to be of interest for the applied
Skogforsk. - If Skogforsk becomes associated with GMO field
tests, it will give the public and the granting
agencies the false impression that practical
implementation is near and supported by Skogforsk
and its breeders. The propaganda from the
Scientists will magnify that impression and to
overselling of the possibilities. - GMO field trials are likely to get unwelcome
attention and visits.
29GMO trees under attack
The only field trial with GMO trees of relevance
for Scandinavian forestry (birch at Punkaharju)
was visited by activists in July 2002. Warning
signs were posted, but no other harm.
30GMO trees under attack
The trial was destroyed June 20, 2004. The
seedlings were broken off or ripped from the
ground.
When the vandalism was reported to the police,
local greenies reciprocated by reporting the
Institute for unsafe management and for
unreported material in this field experiment.
31- In BC seed orchards and Yousry El-Kassabys car
were vandalized as greenies thought these in some
way were associated with GMO. Therefore the
street address of the BC manager visiting our
seed orchard conference is secret. - Green certification generally do not approve GMO.
32- State and governmental agencies can deal with
these PR problems. For university scientists
funding or reputation it seem not to be a
problem, they can trustworthy claim that it basic
research and they got the advantages of appearing
futuristic and in the frontline. - For associations like Skogforsk close to forestry
with real forests, GMO can cause large problems,
and not just for those directly involved, but
innocent bystanders may also be hit.
33- Actually GMO IS the future, but the VERY far
future. To evaluate the GMOs and bring them to
use we need field trials. So verbally Skogforsk
may encourage GMO field trials and development of
competence to manage them at SLU. - When the first batches of real GMO field trials
has been out a number of years without trouble,
Skogforsk may revise the policy.
34Vegetative propagation somatic embryogenesis of
Norway spruce
- Hundreds of SE clones are under testing
- One percent of the southern US pine market is SE.
The plants are sold to the public for 2-3 SEK. - Field trials with SE southern pines develop
normal - STT invests in somatic embryogenesis.
- I cannot see a reason why STT could not set up a
unit in Sweden if forestry pays 2 SEK more for a
plant which increases production 20. The unit
can be build immediately, as the biggest problem
is if forestry wants to pay for the gain, there
is not reason waiting. The largest and safest
gain comes from mass-multiplication of families
with selected parents, do not wait for tested
clones! The mass-multiplied families will plow
the way for the tested clones.
35A million SE plants. Plum Creek Nursery in Georgia
Photo Dag Lingren Sept 06
36Plantation with SE trees Sept 06 in Georgia
Photo Dag Lingren Sept 06
37Transplantation maching, SE miniplugs are
transplanted to open land. Nursery in Georgia
Photo Dag Lingren Sept 06
38Skogsbruk med SE-kloner
- Det torde vara tekniskt och biologiskt möjligt
att använda SE-kloner av gran i operativt
skogsbruk inom några år så att produktionen
förbättras. Merkostnaden torde kunna pressas till
vad den är på marknaden i USA, 2 kronor/planta - En eller några procent av plantmarknaden är
ekonomiskt tillgänglig med dagens teknik. Resten
tycker det är för dyrt och komplicerat. Den
tillgängliga marknaden är för liten för att vara
värd att investera för. - För att marknaden skall bli tillräckligt stor
fordras - antingen att merkostnaden blir obetydlig eller
noll. Det är ingen orimlig tanke att artificiella
klonade industriellt framställda frön skall kunna
blir billigare än fröplantagefrö. Så detta är
värt att satsa på långsiktigt! - eller att skogsbruket radikalt uppvärderar vad
den genetiska vinsten är värd. Det är ingen
orimlig tanke att det går att framställa
SE-system så detta går. - Det är realistiskt att tro att man om man
omedelbart investerade på en SE anläggning med
CellFor modellen skulle kunna få fram 10 miljoner
granplantor per år 2011 som kunde säljas för 3
kronor styck och därigenom göra investeringen
lönsam. Jag föreslår att storskogsbruket nu
tecknar kontrakt med STT att köpa 2 millioner
småplantor per år för omskolning till containers
under 2010-2016 för 3 kronor per omskolningsbar
småplanta för att driva fram en tekniskt
utveckling som kan användas när de testade SE
klonerna kommer. Jag föreslår att detta system
planeras för nordeuropa och inte enbart Sverige,
så man får en större marknad för dyra plantor.
Pluggarna transporteras i kyltransporter över den
amerikanska kontinenten, man kan göra en liknande
distribution i Europa. Iden på kort sikt är
uppblåsning av de bästa fröna som ändå kommit
fram i granförädlingen 2006. Övergången till
testade kloner kan ske gradvis allteftersom
säkrare testresultat kommer fram.
39- If SE reaches the praxis in some scale I also
suggest that Skogforsk consider changing
technique for clone test to SE. - I suggest that Skogforsk also encourages forestry
to classical vegetative propagation by cuttings.