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Title: Globalization Working Group


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Globalization Working Group
  • International Steering
  • Structure of the Lab
  • Operation of the Lab
  • Career Issues

Please consult our Working Documents 7/3/01 for
full discussionof issues.
Veronique Boisvert, John Krane, Gudrid
Moortgat-Pick, Thomas Nunnemann, Manuel Toharia,
Mark Palmer, Matthew Sharp, Wolfgang Walkowiak
with Mary Bishai, Edward McKigney,
2
International Steering
  • Wanted to gauge the support for international
    advisory groups, such as ICFA.
  • general advice to the field and to governments
    (help find consensus)
  • selecting the next very large facility (bypass
    general consensus?)
  • funding power for very large projects only,for a
    limited time span
  • National programs continue unaffected

3
International Steering
Results show both support and hesitancy
  • Should funding agencies rely more heavily on
    advisory bodies like ICFA, GAN, etc.? Yes
    50, No a few, Abstain 50 (inferred)
  • Do you think an international committee should
    determine the type/location of the next machine?
    Yes, Abstain similar numbers, No a few
  • Should an international group eventually have
    funding power? Yes a few, No a few, Abstain
    majority

4
Structure of an International Lab
  • The next frontier facility can take several
    organizational forms, each with advantages and
    disadvantages
  • National lab model easy to implement but might
    be more susceptible to politics. (Setup like
    FNAL, DESY)
  • Shared international organization GAN-like Each
    nation has representatives on a council, share
    construction and operation costs(or provide same
    value through equipment)
  • Autonomous organization CERN model politically
    difficult (treaty required), might be optimal in
    principle.

5
Structure of an International Lab
Shared model was most accepted
  • National organization contributionsFNAL or
    DESY-like Selected by 10
  • Shared organizationAll nations contribute to
    construction, operation, staffTESLA or GAN-like
    Selected by 30
  • Self-organizationAll nations contribute to an
    international organization, which autonomously
    runs the projectsCERN-like Selected by 10-15

6
Operation of an International Lab
Will a single new facility result in less
vigorous research programs in nations far from
the site?
  • GAN has proposed regional centers that have
    remote control rooms, excellent (permanent?)
    video conferencing, and data analysis and storage
    capability. Could this work from both a
    technological and sociological standpoint?
  • RC at national labs ensure involvement, expertise
    will stay in country local hardware facility is
    another benefit.
  • University-based RCs might not need the hardware
    capability smaller, cheaper, yet provides the
    education currently available only at the labs.

7
Operation of an International Lab
Response was conservative.
Are regional centers viable, desirable solution
for
less risky?
  • Would funds now bypass universities?
  • Less hands-on experience for young physicists?
  • -gt University-based RCs could help.

8
Some survey results
  • National labs should keep a strong role.

Frequency of RC vs labs
9
  • Most feel detector proximity is very important.

Regional centers make things easier (if they
become viable)
10
Career Issues
No votes, only discussion
  • European physicists easily work in foreign
    countries, including the US, and assume it will
    be done. Attitude differs in US.
  • Many US citizens expressed pride a the high rate
    of immigration -gt few barriers to entry and
    permanent jobs. Apparently, EU has rules making
    Univ. positions difficult to obtain by US
    citizens.
  • Support for a foreign language requirement for
    physics majors.
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