Title: Managed Care contracting in an ASP World
1Managed Care contracting in an ASP World
- John E. Hennessy
- Executive Director
- Kansas City Cancer Center
2What do we know?
- We have challenged worse, and we got italmost.
- ASP 6 seems about as close to floor as we can
get - Only 3 of transitional payments for
administration left to be stripped - Demonstration project for 2005 2006?
3What do we know?
- Most commercial payors still dont know what ASP
is the prescription drug business is still AWP
driven. - 2005 Admin codes use G-codes, which commercial
payor systems do not like. - This means that the 2004 compensation models are
much more likely to be administerable than 2005.
4What do we know?
- On the surface, the managed care business seems
more desirable than Medicare - This may depend on fee schedules and specialty
pharmacy involvement - So the supply of interested partiesboth
physicians and hospitalsmay be increasing for
managed care payors
5What do we know?
- Employers continue to favor choice over cost
containment, but continue to put the economic
burden of that choice on employees - Uninsured populations are growing
- Underinsuredincluding employed and Medicaidmay
be the biggest risk
6What do we know?
- Here come the middlemen
- Disease Management companies playing the margins
on drug costs, earning a percent of savings - Specialty pharmacies offering rollback pricing
7What dont we know?
- Fall out from MMA
- Retirements, closures, mergersstill to early to
tell - When will hospitals realize that they are at
equal or greater risk on drug reimbursement - Drug pricing in 2005increases? How will drug
prices increase? - What is in the market basket? (examples, Iressa,
Abraxane)
8What dont we know?
- The future of HSAs.
- HSAs are far more favorable for the types of new
patients we see in oncology, than are FSAs - Auto-debit features would dramatically reduce
providers cost of collection - Benefit limitsalready exist for BMTbut are high
costs drugs next on the horizon
9What does it all mean?
- Lots of moving parts for everyone in 2005
- Predictability is always better than
uncertaintyfor both buyers and sellers - Demand for cancer services will growdemand for
diagnostic and chemosensitivity and other
predictive tests
10Thanks, Edisonwhat are we supposed to do with
all of this knowledge?
11Strategies versus Tactics
- All of the strategic thinking in the world can be
made valueless by poor tactics - Fundamentally, managed care negotiations are a
game of chicken - You must be able to pull the trigger
12The Prisoners Dilemma
- Ultimately, both parties are better off by
cooperating, - But each party could enhance its position
relative to the other by not cooperating, while
the other does - Both parties lose big if neither cooperates
13The Prisoners Dilemmatranslated
- Both parties win if the future is predictable and
sustainable - Both parties lose if patient care relationships
are severed - However, either party can put an unbearable
economic burden on the other that would shield
short term gains
14Strategic positioning for success
- Describe the model for success using The 4 Ps
- Product
- Place
- Promotion
- Price
15Product
- Solo practitioner medical oncology only practice
is very undesirable from a payor standpoint - High cost to administer more likely to be low
tech - No peer review
- Consolidated practices are attractive to payors
16Product
- Multi-modality practices become more of a threat
to payors, but also carry greater market presence - Adding XRT, diagnostics
- Product enhancements that are beneficial and
non-threatening genetic counseling physician
extenders social workers etc
17Place
- You need to be someplace where nobody else is, or
have dominant position in a key market, or be in
many key markets - Again small practices are at great risk here
- Place--or recognition of place by payors,
patients, and referring physiciansmay be very
dependent on promotion
18Promotion
- If no one knows who you are you wont be missed
- Your practice needs to be recognized as part of
the fabric of the communitysomething that the
community will not allow to be missing - Not necessarily advertising, but unprompted
recognition tells you that you have made it as an
institution
19Price
- Give your self some room
- Your list price should have plenty of room to
create savings for negotiators - (have a cash payment policy, that treats cash
patients like managed care plansoffering them a
discount based on 100 compliance rather than
mere numbers of patients) - Be prepared to negotiate, not capitulate
- That means risk not just bravado
20Yeah, thanks Mr. Trump, but how do I translate
that into my world?
21Tactics
- Rally the troops
- You need not merely a strategic plan for managed
care contracting, but a tactical plan as well. - You absolutely need all physician/owners on board
with any negotiation one contact with health
plan, not each doctor conducting his own
negotiation
22Tactics
- You MUST consolidate contractsone for the Tax ID
number - Physicians employment agreements should not
permit physicians to sign individual dealsonly
the corporate entity - Health plans will roll over on this, but you must
push
23Tactics
- Find the healthplans Achilles Heel
- Do they understand ASP or AWP?
- Do they understand the transitional payment
element of administration codes in 2004? - Can they administer the new G-codes?
- How much attention are they paying to imaging?
24Tactics
- Understand your own business
- You need to know what you are selling, both units
and price - You will want to have the tools that allow you to
evaluate the impact of differential compensation
on different lines of business - How will your market basket fare in 2005
25Tactics
- You must clearly understand how to swap admin
codes against drug reimbursementhow do
increases/decreases in each line of business
impact your bottom line. - The greatest managed care opportunity is to
inequitably rob Peter to pay Paul
26Tactics
- Look to broaden you product line to create
margins in new lines of business where margins in
existing lines disappear - Imaging
- Diagnostic testing
- Non-oncology infusions
- Genetic testing
27Tactics
- Pull the triggerbe prepared to and do terminate
contracts as a standard course of renegotiating. - No specific intent to not participatein fact you
can be very open about your intention being to
renegotiate.
28Tactics
- Negotiate insured versus non-insured business
- More employers are self-funding and renting
networks the payors who rent these networks are
more concerned about costs for their insured
business than rental business. We offer greater
discounts on insured business in exchange for
limited discounts for rental business, which
allows an aggregate increase in payor yield
29Fundamentals
- Get organized
- Analyze
- Take Action
- Negotiatebe flexible where you can but keep your
needs in mind - Remember the Prisoners Dilemmaa cooperative
result with both parties winning is the best
outcome
30Sample managed care results in Q3 Q4 2004
- National Payorterminated contract3 year
contract preserving 2004 admin codes and AWP as
payment base, trading AWP for admin - National Payorterminated contract2 year
contract implementing 2004 admin codes and
maintaining AWP as payment base - National Payorterminated contract3 year
contract implementing 2004 admin codes and
maintaining AWP as payment base
31Next steps
- What three things are you going to do this week
to follow up on this call? - Questions?