Title: BBL 3207
1BBL 3207
2Point of View in Conversation
- Consider the sentence below, said by one male
student to another in a coffee bar. Whose
viewpoint do the highlighted parts of the
sentence express/take into account, and how do
you know?
When I come to your place tomorrow, will your
sister be there?
3- When I come to your place tomorrow, will your
sister be there? - The discourse could be represented as below
- Addresser 1 Message Addressee 1
- The same discourse structure would appear to
account for prototypical poems, like Wordsworth's
'Daffodils'. The poet, Wordsworth, appears to
write directly to the reader, and so he is the
addresser. There is no specific person that the
poem is addressed to, and so by default the
reader appears to be the addressee. - Addresser 1 Message Addressees 1,2,3
4- When I met Sharon yesterday she told me that her
sister was ill. - How many levels of discourse this time? Who are
the addressers and addressees?
5- When I met Sharon yesterday she told me that her
sister was ill. - How many levels of discourse this time? Who are
the addressers and addressees? - There are two levels of discourse here. Student A
talks to student B, and in doing so, he reports
what Sharon said to him on a previous occasion.
Hence one discourse situation is reported, or
embedded, inside another.
ADDRESSEE 1 (Current Discourse) STUDENT B
ADDRESSER 1
Message
ADDRESSEE 2 (Previous Discourse) STUDENT A
ADDRESSER 2
Message
6- The prototypical 'doubled' discourse structure of
drama - The one-level discoursal structure is typical of
most poems, but the two-level discourse structure
is more typical of drama. - Playwrights write plays for audiences and
readers, but they do not communicate directly
with their addressees, as poets typically do.
Instead, they communicate meanings indirectly to
their audience by having their characters
communicate with one another on stage. - So the following diagram represents the discourse
structure involved when one character says
something to another character in a play
ADDRESSEE 1 (Audience / Reader)
ADDRESSER 1 (Playwright)
Message
ADDRESSEE 2 (Character B)
ADDRESSER 2 (Character A)
Message
7- Note that in a play which has just two
characters, there are at least FOUR points of
view to consider, the viewpoint of each of the
two characters, that of the playwright and that
of the reader.
ADDRESSEE 1 (Audience / Reader)
ADDRESSER 1 (Playwright)
Message
ADDRESSEE 2 (Character B)
ADDRESSER 2 (Character A)
Message
8Discourse structure of 1st and 3rd person novels
- Because novels always have narrators present, as
well as authors, readers and characters, they
prototypically need three discourse levels in
their discourse architecture.
9Discourse structure of 1st and 3rd person novels
Note that the term usually used for the person
who the narrator addresses is the 'narratee'.
10Discourse structure of 1st and 3rd person novels
- The discourse architecture of 1st-person
narration Charlotte Brontë's Jane Eyre - In Charlotte Brontë's famous novel Jane Eyre,
Jane tells the story of what happened in her life
from when she was a small girl to her marriage to
Mr Rochester at the end of the novel. - She is thus a typical 1st-person narrator, a
narrator who is a character in her own story. - Readers also often feel that she is telling the
story to them directly, and indeed at the end of
the novel she actually says 'reader, I married
him'.
11The discourse architecture of 1st-person
narration Charlotte Brontë's Jane Eyre
- The following is the overall discourse
architecture for this novel
ADDRESSEE 1 ( Reader)
ADDRESSER 1 (Charlotte Bronte)
Message
ADDRESSEE 2 (Narratee ReaderB)
ADDRESSER 2 (Jane Eyre narrator)
Message
ADDRESSEE 2 (Mr Rochester)
ADDRESSER 2 (Jane Eyre character)
Message
12The discourse architecture of 3rd-person narration
- 1st-person narrators tell their own tale, and so
use the 1st-person pronoun when referring to
themselves. - But there is another very common form of
narration where all the characters are referred
to in the 3rd person. - These narrations will seem much more 'objective'
than 1st-person narrations because they are not
automatically attached to the viewpoint of a
particular character.
13The discourse architecture of 3rd-person narration
- Indeed, with 3rd-person narrators there is a
strong tendency for readers to collapse together
levels 1 and 2 on the left-hand side of the
discourse structure diagram and assume that the
narrator and the author are really the same
person. - This leads to the idea that 3rd-person narrators
are omniscient. They know everything and can take
us inside the mind of any character if they so
wish.
14Discourse Structure and Viewpoint
Addresser 1 Author
Addressee 1 Reader
Addresser 2 Narrator
Addressee 2 Narratee
Addresser 3 Character
Addressee 3 Character
15The discourse architecture of 3rd-person narration
- In other words, 3rd-person narrators ( authors)
know everything and tell the truth, whereas
1st-person narrators ( characters) are
notoriously unreliable. - The '3rd-person narrator author' equation
appears to be a default reading assumption. But
beware there are some well-known cases where the
assumption does not hold. Not all authors invent
narrators whose views and attitudes they share!
16The discourse architecture of 3rd-person narration
- Even with a 3rd-person narration, it is possible
for the narrator to take up a viewpoint that
coincides with that of a particular character or
characters. - Indeed, one if its strengths is that it is
possible to adopt the viewpoint of more than one
character at different points in a story, whereas
the choice of a 1st-person narrator aligns us
with that particular narrator-character
throughout.
17Dialogue and Narration
- Dialogue when characters speak.
- Narration when the narrator speaks.
- Quotation marks separate narration from
dialogue. - Example
- Help my cousin Jack said.
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18Identifying Narrative Perspective
- It's about the narrator (who tells the story)
- We're not looking at dialogue.
- We don't care what characters say.
- Only the narrator's voice matters.
19Pronoun Case
We are trying to figure out the narrator's view
point on the story. Perspectives and Signal Words
First-Person I, me, my, mine, we, us, ours,
Second-Person you, your
Third-Person he, she, her, they, them (also character's names)
20Secret
- I am in the room
- I 1st Person
- You come in the room.
- You 2nd Person
- Then he or she came in the room.
- He or She 3rd Person
21POINT OF VIEW
- The term point of view describes the perspective
from which an author chooses to present an essay,
story, or other piece of writing. - There are several points of view that the authors
often use. They include - 1st person narrator
- 3rd person limited
- 3rd person omniscient
22Objective Point of View
- In the objective point of view, the writer tells
what happens without stating more than can be
inferred from the storys action and dialogue. - The narrator never tells the reader anything
about what the character thinks or feels, and
remains a detached observer of the story.
23First-Person
- Narrator is a part of the story (character).
- Used when one of the characters tells the story
and speaks as I, an eyewitness - Look for phrases or sentences with I, me, or my,
that show the narrators thoughts and feelings. - e.g.
- I went home. Tim came over. I couldn't play.
24First Person Point of View
- When reading stories in the first person, you
need to realize that what the narrator is
recounting might not be the objective truth. - You should question the trustworthiness of the
narrators account of the events of the story.
25Third-Person
- Narrator usually isnt involved.
- Tells other's stories.
- Lots of He, She, character names.
- Three Types of Third-Person Narration
- Does the narrator tell
- Thoughts and Feelings of Characters?
26Third Person Point of View
- The narrator does not participate in the action
of the story as one of the characters, but lets
us know exactly how the characters think and
feel. - There are two different types of point of view
Limited and Omniscient. - Third person limited - used when we see the story
from only one characters point of view but not
first-hand. - knowledge is limited to one character, either
major or minor, has a limited point of view. It
is limited to the one character with whom the
story is being told through.
27Third-Person Limited
- Narrator is limited to one character.
- Tells thoughts feelings of one character
- Example
- Tim was mad at Shay. He blamed her. Shay just
left without saying anything. She left a note
and then left him.
28Third-Person Omniscient
- Narrator is all knowing.
- Narrator tells thoughts and feelings of more than
one character. - Omni All Scient Knowing
- Example
- Tim was mad at Shay. He blamed her. Shay knew
Tim would be mad, but she wanted to live her life.
29Third-Person Omniscient
- Look for phrases and sentences that describe the
emotions, feelings, and reactions of the
characters. - You will be able to see if the point of view is
limited or omniscient by the range of viewpoints
presented.
30Third-Person Objective
- Narrator does not reveal any characters thoughts
or feelings. - Only characters dialogue and actions are
narrated. - Example
- Tim slammed the door. He walked upstairs read
a note from Shay. He kicked her trash can
started crying.
31Tips on Identifying
- Check 1st or 2nd-person before worrying about
objective, limited, or omniscient. - Ask, Whos story is the narrator telling his,
mine, or someone elses? - Focus on narration not dialogue.
32Practice
- Read the following passages.
- Determine the narrators perspective.
- Write down your answer.
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- When I was four months old, my mother died
suddenly and my father was left to look after me
all by himself I had no brothers or sisters. So
through boyhood, from the age of four months
onward, there was just us two, my father and me.
We lived in an old gypsy caravan behind a filling
station
First-Person
342
- The huge man dropped his blankets and flung
himself down and drank from the surface of the
green pool. The small man stepped behind him.
"Lennie!" he said sharply. "Lennie, for God"
sakes dont drink so much." Lennie continued to
snort into the pool. The small man leaned over
and shook him by the shoulder. "Lennie you gonna
be sick like you was last night." Lennie dipped
his whole head under, hat and all "Thas good,"
he said. "You drink some, George." He smiled
happily
Third-Person Objective
354
- Harold Davis took a deep breath and slowly
started to peel the gauze from the wound on his
grandmothers leg. Hold on, Grandma. Im
almost done, He said quietly. Dont worry,
baby. It doesnt hurt too much, she quietly
replied. Just take your time. Harold glanced
up at his grandmother lying on the couch. He
could tell she was in pain from the way she
gripped the cushions, but still she managed to
smile back at him.
Third-Person Limited
365
- They were standing under a tree, each with an
arm round the other's neck, and Alice knew which
was which in a moment, because one of them had
"DUM" embroidered on his collar, and the other
"DEE." "I suppose they've each got "TWEEDLE"
round at the back of the collar," she said to
herself. They stood so still that she quite
forgot they were alive, and she was just looking
round to see if the word "TWEEDLE" was written at
the back of each collar, when she was startled by
a voice coming from the one marked "DUM."
Third-Person Limited
37Different kinds of point of view
- 1. Spatial viewpointThe most basic manifestation
of viewpoint has to do with our position in
space. - Looking at something from one position is
different from looking at it from another
position. Compare - 'The tiger disappeared into the distance'
- 'The tiger got larger and larger
- Sentence (i) represents a viewing position
behind the tiger, with the tiger moving away, and
sentence (ii) is from a position in front of the
tiger with it moving nearer and nearer to the
viewing position. - Spatial viewpoint encodes distance
(nearer/farther) as well as position in relation
to other objects.
38Different kinds of point of view
- 2. Temporal viewpoint
- Refers to the presentation of events in a
fictional world from a particular position in
time. - 'Yesterday, the exam' and 'Tomorrow, the exam'
position us 'behind' and 'in front of' the exam. - The notion of distance and proximity that pertain
in spatial point of view apply metaphorically to
temporal view point. - Time points can also be nearer or further away
from the 'time viewing' position, as well as
being on one side or the other of that position.
All these spatial metaphors for time indicate
that spatial viewpoint is the most basic.
39Different kinds of point of view
- 2. Temporal viewpoint
- Refers to the presentation of events in a
fictional world from a particular position in
time. - 'Yesterday, the exam' and 'Tomorrow, the exam'
position us 'behind' and 'in front of' the exam. - The notion of distance and proximity that pertain
in spatial point of view apply metaphorically to
temporal view point. - Time points can also be nearer or further away
from the 'time viewing' position, as well as
being on one side or the other of that position.
All these spatial metaphors for time indicate
that spatial viewpoint is the most basic.
40Different kinds of point of view
- 3. Social viewpoint
- We can also talk of social viewpoint. We can talk
refer to people as being above or below us in
status (note the use of spatial metaphors again),
and as being close or distant from us (cf.
'sister' and 'step-sister', or 'mother' and
'mother-in-law').
41Different kinds of point of view
- 4. Personal / ideological viewpoint
- Whatever their social status, we can look down
on, or up to the opinions of others (cf. the
spatial metaphors again!), depending upon whether
we agree or disagree with their personal or
socio-political views. - If someone in an organisation makes public what
they see as some wrongdoing, they might be seen
as a dreadful 'traitor' or a benign 'whistle
blower', which likens them to a referee in a
football match.
42Different kinds of point of view
- 5. Conceptual viewpoint
- Sometimes the representation of a viewpoint can
be so different from ours that it represents a
different way of conceptualising the world we
live in. - If a small child calls all male adults 'daddy',
it is because he has not yet properly made the
conceptual distinction between his father and
other male adults. - In other words, his conceptual viewpoint is
different from ours. - A good example of conceptual viewpoint in a poem
is Craig Raine's 'A Martian Sends a Postcard
Home', where a Martian visiting Earth refers to
what are ordinary objects for us in very
different terms. So books, for example, are
described as 'mechanical birds'. For us the
Martian has completely misunderstood what books
are because of his conceptual viewpoint. We can
see how he has done it, because half-open books
do look a bit like large birds in flight, but we
can also see that he has a completely different
conceptualisation of the world from us.
43Different kinds of point of view
- 5. Attitudinal viewpoint
- Someone's viewpoint can also apply to how they
feel about something, or what their attitude to
it is. - Consider the quotation below from a short story
by D. H. Lawrence. Fanny is an educated woman who
had left her village and the working class man
she would otherwise have had to marry, in order
to become a governess. Now her job has come to an
end because her charge has now grown up, she is
forced to return to the village to marry Harry,
something which she appears very unwilling to do. - She opened the door of her grimy branch-line
carriage, and began to get down her bags (1). The
porter was nowhere, of course, but there was
Harry (2). There, on the sordid little
station under the furnaces, she stood, tall and
distinguished, in her well-made coat and skirt
and her broad grey velour hat (3).
44Different kinds of point of view
- 5. Attitudinal viewpoint
- She opened the door of her grimy branch-line
carriage, and began to get down her bags (1). The
porter was nowhere, of course, but there was
Harry (2). There, on the sordid little
station under the furnaces, she stood, tall and
distinguished, in her well-made coat and skirt
and her broad grey velour hat (3). - The adjectives concerning the carriage of the
train and the railway station are not just
descriptive. - They also have connotations which suggest
disapproval on the part of the narrator and the
character Fanny, from whose viewpoint the scene
is surveyed. - The external description of Fanny herself is, by
contrast, approving in terms of the adjectives
used. She appears to be a cut above her
surroundings. The use of the distal deictic
'there' being used not just to suggest physical
apartness from the perceiver, but also an
analogical attitudinal distance. Harry is being
coded in the same was as the unpleasant
surroundings.
45Different kinds of point of view
- Find out about psychological viewpoint.
- You will present/discuss this tomorrow
- Please read 26-30, 77-80, 123-130