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Title: PROFESSIONAL CUBANS IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN PUBLIC SERVICE


1
PROFESSIONAL CUBANS IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN PUBLIC
SERVICE
  • Presentation Portfolio Committees on
    Public Service and Administration and Foreign
    Affairs
  • PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
  • 23 February 2005

2
Structure of Presentation
  • Introduction
  • Investigation approach
  • Findings
  • Response to the questions posed

3
Introduction
  • Mr PJ Groenewald (FF) requested Minister
    Fraser-Moleketi to appoint a Commission of
    Enquiry into the appointment of Cubans in the
    Public Service (PS)
  • Min deemed it appropriate to undertake an
    investigation and referred matter to PSC
  • Investigation had to respond to the ff
    questions
  • Number of engineering posts vacant in the Public
    Service?
  • Number of engineering posts in the Public Service
    filled by foreigners?
  • What are the qualifications of the Cuban
    engineers and whether they are up to standard
    with the qualifications in SA?

4
Introduction (cont.)
  • iv. Are Cubans being directly remunerated for
    their services or remunerated via Cuban
    government?
  • v. The remuneration they receive for their
    services?
  • vi. How widely have the engineering posts been
    advertised and how many affirmative action posts
    have been advertised?
  • vii. How many applications were received for the
    advertised posts?
  • viii. Number of Cubans in service of the Public
    Service and in which occupations?
  • ix. Number of Cubans on ground of bilateral
    agreements being employed in the Public Service
    and in which occupations?

5
Investigation Approach
  • Identification of affected Depts and governmental
    systems
  • Vulindlela - PERSAL
  • The Department of Foreign Affairs was also
    approached with the objective of obtaining the
    names of departments involved in the appointment
    of Cubans and the relevant contact persons in
    those departments and the required information
    was received from the department
  • The national Departments of Housing, Water
    Affairs and Forestry and Health were also
    requested to provide information on the above
    questions


6
Findings
  • Approach of SA gov
  • Encourage closer ties with Cuba
  • Facilitate the exchange of knowledge and
    expertise
  • Individual Ministries and Depts take
    responsibility for inviting Cuban professionals
    (engineers and architects)


7
Findings (cont.)
  • South African Housing Programme
  • Bilateral agreement 30 December 2002
  • Aim strengthen co-operation in identified areas
    on housing and develop a comprehensive programme
    for housing cooperation
  • Areas of co-operation
  • Skills transfer and empowerment
  • Assist with the development of housing education
    training curriculum
  • Explore establishment of partnerships in the
    housing sector

8
Findings (cont.)
  • There are several areas that currently limit the
    participation of certain professions in low cost
    housing delivery process, some lie beyond the
    control of the department
  • little undergraduate training on engaging with
    the needs of poor clients who represent their
    needs as a collective rather than as individuals.
    Many tertiary institutions are correcting this
    tendency and offering programs that will improve
    negotiation and need assessment skills. Designing
    is also a challenge.
  • Provinces have mentioned difficulty in filling
    posts advertised for architects

9
Findings (cont.)
  • Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
  • The Cuban professionals are not employed by the
    department but are seconded
  • The Cubans are assisting the department with the
    following services
  • The provision of geohydrological specialist and
    engineering services to rural and other
    disadvantaged communities within areas where such
    services are inadequate
  • The development of sustainable approach to the
    use of available water resources and the
    promotion of proper operation and maintenance of
    water supply infrastructure







10
Findings (cont.)
  • The promotion and support of proper sanitation
  • The training, support and transfer of skills to
    local staff
  • Department of Health
  • The departments conditions of employment for
    Cuban technicians are the same as those for
    Cuban doctors
  • Receive direct remuneration from the department

11
Response to the questions posed
  • i. Number of engineering posts vacant in the
    Public Service
  • PERSAL recorded a total of 1,734 vacant
    engineering and related posts in the Public
    Service
  • ii. Number of engineering posts in the Public
    Service which are filled by foreigners
  • PERSAL recorded a total of 1,482 engineering and
    related posts filled in the Public Service of
    which 53 posts are occupied by foreigners 1.65

12
Response to the questions posed (contd)
  • iii. What are the qualifications of Cuban
    engineers and if they are up to standard with the
    qualifications in South Africa?
  • Department of Housing
  • Cuban professionals have architectural and civil
    engineering qualifications
  • Consultations with Professional Bodies in South
    Africa to assess the qualifications of Cuban
    professionals is underway
  • Currently Cuban engineers are not involved in
    certifying of projects.

13
Response to the questions posed (contd)
  • Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
  • Cuban nationals are seconded to the department
  • Their qualifications were not therefore assessed
    by SAQA
  • All the secondees have academic qualifications in
    the fields of Geohydrology Operations and
    Maintenance (Mechanical Engineering) and Water
    Quality Management

14
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
  • Dept of Health
  • Cuban clinical engineers and technicians do
    training equivalent to training offered at only
    one institution in the country
  • After that initial training they do further
    studies specialising in particular areas
    (diagnostic equipment)
  • Their training, experience and expertise puts
    them at Control Technician Level
  • The SA Engineering Council has only just
    recently created a Clinical Engineering Category
    under which these highly qualified engineers and
    technicians fall

15
Response to the questions posed (contd)
  • iv. Are Cubans being directly remunerated for
    their services or remunerated via Cuban
    government?
  • Housing Programme
  • In terms of the cooperation agreement signed
    between the South African and Cuban governments,
    provincial housing departments employ and
    remunerate Cuban professionals on contract basis
    for three years
  • Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
  • In terms of the agreement reached between the
    South African and Cuban government, Cuba pays the
    salaries to the secondees and the department pays
    a monthly stipend of R3 300

16
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
  • Department of Health
  • Clinical engineers receive direct remuneration
    from the department
  • v. Remuneration received for their services
  • PERSAL recorded a total of 26 Cuban engineering
    and related personnel with a gross annual income
    of R4.68 million per annum

17
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
  • vi. How widely have the engineering posts been
    advertised and how many affirmative action posts
    have been advertised?
  • Department of Housing
  • Department only advertised the engineering posts
    in Cuba
  • Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
  • Department did not advertise any posts because
    the Cuban nationals are seconded

18
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
  • Department of Health
  • Permanent shortage of clinical engineering
    technicians and engineers
  • Posts regularly advertised but quality of
    applicants do not meet the criteria
  • Clinical engineering very scarce skill, further
    training is required, over and above the normal
    electrical engineering that is done by Technikons
  • Only one institution is accredited by the SAQA to
    offer clinical engineering in the country

19
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
  • Department of Health
  • A shortage exists of instructors that could
    train medical equipment specialists
  • The department only has 10 clinical engineering
    staff capacity that is required in accordance
    with the norms recommended for the country
  • As a result, the status of medical equipment in
    public hospitals has deteriorated to alarming
    levels

20
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
  • vii.How many applications were received for the
    advertised posts?
  • Department of Housing
  • 158 applications were received for these posts
  • Senior officials at both the national and
    provincial departments went to Cuba to interview
    the applicants

21
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
  • Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
  • The posts were not advertised because of the
    seconding arrangement
  • Department of Health
  • The department did not provide any information at
    the time of the gathering of data, because it was
    still compiling statistics and gathering
    information from the provinces in this regard

22
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
viii.Number of Cubans in service of the Public
Service and in which occupations PERSAL recorded
a total of 388 Cuban Employees in the Public
Service and they belong to the following
occupational classes Educators
1 Architects 13 Engineers and related
25 Medical Practitioners 339 Health Science
and related 2 Emergency Services and
related 1 Mining and Geology
2 Other occupations 5 Official PERSAL
stats Sept 2003
23
Response to the questions posed (cont.)
  • Number of Cubans on ground of bilateral
    agreements being employed in the Public Service
    and in which occupations
  • As at 30 Nov 2003
  • Housing 62 Architects and Engineers
  • DWAF 8 Engineers and Technicians (was 9 1
    returned home)
  • Health 4 Clinical Engineers


24
Response from the Cuban Embassy
  • Stats received from the Cuban Embassy as at the
    end of December 2003
  • 407 Cuban experts were listed
  • Doctors 314
  • Architect and engineers 62
  • Engineers in Water Affairs 7
  • Tutors of South African teachers 24
  • (Math, Chemistry and physical science)


25
Response from the Cuban Embassy (contd.)
  • Stats received from the Cuban Embassy as at the
    end of October 2004
  • 290 Cuban experts were listed
  • Doctors 220
  • Architect and civil engineers 33
  • Engineers in Water Affairs 13
  • Tutors of South African teachers 24
  • (Math, Chemistry and physical science)
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