Title: PROFESSIONAL CUBANS IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN PUBLIC SERVICE
1PROFESSIONAL CUBANS IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN PUBLIC
SERVICE
- Presentation Portfolio Committees on
Public Service and Administration and Foreign
Affairs - PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
- 23 February 2005
2Structure of Presentation
- Introduction
- Investigation approach
- Findings
- Response to the questions posed
3Introduction
- Mr PJ Groenewald (FF) requested Minister
Fraser-Moleketi to appoint a Commission of
Enquiry into the appointment of Cubans in the
Public Service (PS) - Min deemed it appropriate to undertake an
investigation and referred matter to PSC - Investigation had to respond to the ff
questions - Number of engineering posts vacant in the Public
Service? - Number of engineering posts in the Public Service
filled by foreigners? - What are the qualifications of the Cuban
engineers and whether they are up to standard
with the qualifications in SA?
4Introduction (cont.)
- iv. Are Cubans being directly remunerated for
their services or remunerated via Cuban
government? - v. The remuneration they receive for their
services? - vi. How widely have the engineering posts been
advertised and how many affirmative action posts
have been advertised? - vii. How many applications were received for the
advertised posts? - viii. Number of Cubans in service of the Public
Service and in which occupations? - ix. Number of Cubans on ground of bilateral
agreements being employed in the Public Service
and in which occupations?
5Investigation Approach
- Identification of affected Depts and governmental
systems - Vulindlela - PERSAL
- The Department of Foreign Affairs was also
approached with the objective of obtaining the
names of departments involved in the appointment
of Cubans and the relevant contact persons in
those departments and the required information
was received from the department - The national Departments of Housing, Water
Affairs and Forestry and Health were also
requested to provide information on the above
questions
6Findings
- Approach of SA gov
- Encourage closer ties with Cuba
- Facilitate the exchange of knowledge and
expertise - Individual Ministries and Depts take
responsibility for inviting Cuban professionals
(engineers and architects)
7Findings (cont.)
- South African Housing Programme
- Bilateral agreement 30 December 2002
- Aim strengthen co-operation in identified areas
on housing and develop a comprehensive programme
for housing cooperation - Areas of co-operation
- Skills transfer and empowerment
- Assist with the development of housing education
training curriculum - Explore establishment of partnerships in the
housing sector
8Findings (cont.)
- There are several areas that currently limit the
participation of certain professions in low cost
housing delivery process, some lie beyond the
control of the department - little undergraduate training on engaging with
the needs of poor clients who represent their
needs as a collective rather than as individuals.
Many tertiary institutions are correcting this
tendency and offering programs that will improve
negotiation and need assessment skills. Designing
is also a challenge. - Provinces have mentioned difficulty in filling
posts advertised for architects
9Findings (cont.)
- Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
- The Cuban professionals are not employed by the
department but are seconded - The Cubans are assisting the department with the
following services - The provision of geohydrological specialist and
engineering services to rural and other
disadvantaged communities within areas where such
services are inadequate - The development of sustainable approach to the
use of available water resources and the
promotion of proper operation and maintenance of
water supply infrastructure
10Findings (cont.)
- The promotion and support of proper sanitation
- The training, support and transfer of skills to
local staff - Department of Health
- The departments conditions of employment for
Cuban technicians are the same as those for
Cuban doctors - Receive direct remuneration from the department
11Response to the questions posed
- i. Number of engineering posts vacant in the
Public Service - PERSAL recorded a total of 1,734 vacant
engineering and related posts in the Public
Service - ii. Number of engineering posts in the Public
Service which are filled by foreigners - PERSAL recorded a total of 1,482 engineering and
related posts filled in the Public Service of
which 53 posts are occupied by foreigners 1.65
12Response to the questions posed (contd)
- iii. What are the qualifications of Cuban
engineers and if they are up to standard with the
qualifications in South Africa? - Department of Housing
- Cuban professionals have architectural and civil
engineering qualifications - Consultations with Professional Bodies in South
Africa to assess the qualifications of Cuban
professionals is underway - Currently Cuban engineers are not involved in
certifying of projects.
13Response to the questions posed (contd)
- Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
- Cuban nationals are seconded to the department
- Their qualifications were not therefore assessed
by SAQA - All the secondees have academic qualifications in
the fields of Geohydrology Operations and
Maintenance (Mechanical Engineering) and Water
Quality Management
14Response to the questions posed (cont.)
- Dept of Health
- Cuban clinical engineers and technicians do
training equivalent to training offered at only
one institution in the country - After that initial training they do further
studies specialising in particular areas
(diagnostic equipment) - Their training, experience and expertise puts
them at Control Technician Level - The SA Engineering Council has only just
recently created a Clinical Engineering Category
under which these highly qualified engineers and
technicians fall
15Response to the questions posed (contd)
- iv. Are Cubans being directly remunerated for
their services or remunerated via Cuban
government? - Housing Programme
- In terms of the cooperation agreement signed
between the South African and Cuban governments,
provincial housing departments employ and
remunerate Cuban professionals on contract basis
for three years - Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
- In terms of the agreement reached between the
South African and Cuban government, Cuba pays the
salaries to the secondees and the department pays
a monthly stipend of R3 300
16Response to the questions posed (cont.)
- Department of Health
- Clinical engineers receive direct remuneration
from the department - v. Remuneration received for their services
- PERSAL recorded a total of 26 Cuban engineering
and related personnel with a gross annual income
of R4.68 million per annum -
17Response to the questions posed (cont.)
- vi. How widely have the engineering posts been
advertised and how many affirmative action posts
have been advertised? -
- Department of Housing
- Department only advertised the engineering posts
in Cuba -
- Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
- Department did not advertise any posts because
the Cuban nationals are seconded -
18Response to the questions posed (cont.)
- Department of Health
- Permanent shortage of clinical engineering
technicians and engineers - Posts regularly advertised but quality of
applicants do not meet the criteria - Clinical engineering very scarce skill, further
training is required, over and above the normal
electrical engineering that is done by Technikons - Only one institution is accredited by the SAQA to
offer clinical engineering in the country
19Response to the questions posed (cont.)
- Department of Health
- A shortage exists of instructors that could
train medical equipment specialists - The department only has 10 clinical engineering
staff capacity that is required in accordance
with the norms recommended for the country - As a result, the status of medical equipment in
public hospitals has deteriorated to alarming
levels
20Response to the questions posed (cont.)
- vii.How many applications were received for the
advertised posts? - Department of Housing
- 158 applications were received for these posts
- Senior officials at both the national and
provincial departments went to Cuba to interview
the applicants -
21Response to the questions posed (cont.)
- Department of Water Affairs and Forestry
- The posts were not advertised because of the
seconding arrangement - Department of Health
- The department did not provide any information at
the time of the gathering of data, because it was
still compiling statistics and gathering
information from the provinces in this regard
22Response to the questions posed (cont.)
viii.Number of Cubans in service of the Public
Service and in which occupations PERSAL recorded
a total of 388 Cuban Employees in the Public
Service and they belong to the following
occupational classes Educators
1 Architects 13 Engineers and related
25 Medical Practitioners 339 Health Science
and related 2 Emergency Services and
related 1 Mining and Geology
2 Other occupations 5 Official PERSAL
stats Sept 2003
23Response to the questions posed (cont.)
- Number of Cubans on ground of bilateral
agreements being employed in the Public Service
and in which occupations - As at 30 Nov 2003
- Housing 62 Architects and Engineers
- DWAF 8 Engineers and Technicians (was 9 1
returned home) - Health 4 Clinical Engineers
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24Response from the Cuban Embassy
- Stats received from the Cuban Embassy as at the
end of December 2003 - 407 Cuban experts were listed
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- Doctors 314
- Architect and engineers 62
- Engineers in Water Affairs 7
- Tutors of South African teachers 24
- (Math, Chemistry and physical science)
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25Response from the Cuban Embassy (contd.)
- Stats received from the Cuban Embassy as at the
end of October 2004 - 290 Cuban experts were listed
- Doctors 220
- Architect and civil engineers 33
- Engineers in Water Affairs 13
- Tutors of South African teachers 24
- (Math, Chemistry and physical science)
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