Title: SOCOPSE
1 Source control of priority substances in Europe
WP 4 Decision Support System
Willy van Tongeren, Ruud Baartmans, TNO Brussel,
16 June 2008
2Content
- State of the art
- Points of attention
- Some critical issues
- Plans for coming year
3DSS
4At some time, not far from now
- Mr. Jones, Some-Where Water
- Working at Some-Where Water
- Is responsible for drafting a chapter on
priority substances in the RBMP - Is neither a scientist nor an economist
Fortunately, he has the SOCOPSEDSS Handbook
which provides him guidance and an approach
5State of the Art
- Draft available
- for application in cases
- Reflection of users to first steps positive
- Need for improvement
- Cases
- Additional
6Introduction
7State of the art parts of the DSS
- Step by step plan
- Additional Tools
- Data (bases) from WP 2 and WP3
- Other information
- Web based version ?
- Added value!!!
8Step by Step Plan
9Step by step plan
- Good basic structure, systematic
- (Better) examples needed Cases !
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10Additional Tools
- (Env. Fate) Models
- Stake holder involvement, Process tools
- Cost calculation
- Experience in cases
- Additional tools needed ???
11Data Bases (1)
- MFA data base ?
- Annex 6.8 ??? And 6.9
- Partly dated info ?? still need to renew ??
- Add info about phasing out, how to deal with this
??
12Data Bases (2)
- Substance reports (WP 3)
- Fact sheets
- General description end-of-pipe techniques
- Detail level ?
- Missing info
- Costs, how to improve (to be discussed tomorrow
?) - Synergetic aspects measures
- Non-technological issues
13Web based version ?State of the art (IVL)
- Existing DSS base
- Links to other data bases
- Link to other info sources
14Plans for the coming period
- Support implementation of DSS in cases
- Improve DSS based at outcome of the cases
- Improve parts of DSS together with WP 2 and WP 3
- Development of the web based version
15Finally Mr Jones will be satisfied
16And no Fairy-tale without a happy end and a happy
(water) Prince
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18 Points of criticism / attention / discussion
- Scope
- Substances
- Type of measures (technical vs other)
- Synergy
- Level of input data
- Material Flow analyses (WP 2)
- Management options (WP 3)
- Additional supporting tools
- Costs figures and tools
- Process support tools ?
- Added value
19We do have our restrictions, but ..
- Work on applicable results
20- SCOPE
- Substances Most are banned, but what does this
mean for the future ! - Measures Focus at technology, but often this is
not the solution ! - Synergy Look at system level not at substance
level ! -
21Level of Input
- WP 2 input out of date
- WP 3 added value ? (IPPC ??)
- New figures
- Costs
- Only technical data
- Diffuse/ historical sources ?
- Criteria of selection ?
22Additional Tools
- How to handle
- Lack of information
- Risks
- Uncertainties
23Added Value
- Structure
- Detail level
- Stakeholder committment
- ..
- Link with earlier projects
- Haskoning Report
- Link with other DSS
- KRW-Guider
24Plans WP 4 coming year
- Further development handbook
- process the comment of today and tomorrow
- Draft handbook for application in the cases
- Test in the cases
- Feed back from the cases when ??
- Further development web based version