Title:
1Initiate the reorganisation and strengthening of
the SRNWP ProgrammeEMN/C27/Doc12C27 took
place the 4-6 April 2006 in Toulouse
SRNWP Programme
- 13th SRNWP Meeting
- 12th of October 2006, Zurich (Switzerland)
2Documents distributed for preparation of the 3rd
phase of the SRNWP Programme and Reactions
- Documents distributed in August 2006
- Programme Proposal DRAFT_1
- Programme Decision DRAFT_1
- Reactions received from
- UGM
- Meteo-France
- SMHI
- HIRLAM-ALADIN
- COSMO
- Preparation of the discussion
- All the reactions considered with the same
weight, independently of their origin (only ideas
considered!)
3Aim of this meeting
- Our work We have define the main features of the
next phase of SRNWP Programme (from 1st Jan.08) - The main points are
- Aims of the Programme
- Governance of the Programme
- Projects (scientific and operational) associated
with the Programme - To finalise in broad lines Aims and Governance
- A dedicated meeting will very probably be
necessary to define the projects - To define the organisational procedure in order
to have the Programme Proposal ready in April
2007 together with the Proposal(s) for Project(s) - First step Writing of DRAFT_2 based on the
decisions of this meeting - Distribution of DRAFT_2 to the participants in
November - To bring discussions to a close, we will possibly
have to vote. Please only one vote per SRNWP
Member (per NMS).
4Aims of the new ProgrammeList of the aims (or
goals) of each answerSynthesis
5HIRLAM - ALADIN
- Diffusion of NWP knowledge (main activity of the
present SRNWP) - Enhanced scientific cooperation by research
projects (mandate Vision workshop) - Enhanced operational cooperation and increased
interoperability between models (mandate Vision
workshop) - Training and education activities in NWP (new!)
- Stronger liaison role with EUMETNET Programmes
(already active), ECMWF (refused) and the climate
modeling community (new!)
6COSMO
- Goals must be related to the recommendations of
the Reading Workshop - Interoperability issues
- Realisation of the quick wins common plots (has
started with the WGCEF) model verification
(Project proposal ready) - European Multi-model LAM
- COSMO priorities of the HA goals
- Enhanced Operational Cooperation
(Interoperability) - Enhanced scientific cooperation through
scientific projects - Information exchange (meetings, LC or WG, etc)
- Training and Education
7UGM
- Supports the COSMO comments, but with the
following differences - Priorities
- Scientific Cooperation
- Training and Education
- No priority for Operational Cooperation as it
is not a clear concept. - Programme of training mission
8Meteo-France
- Meteo-France supports the project of reinforcing
SRNWP in the spirit of the Vision - Most current SRNWP activities should continue in
a future reinforced SRNWP - New SRNWP activities with strong priority
- Adoption of common formats and rules for the
input and output between the European NWP systems
(with specific funding) - RD of common postprocessing and verification
- RD on multi model LAM ensembles (GLAMEPS could
be seen as the European contribution to
TIGGE-LAM) - OBSNET initiative under the responsibility of
SRNWP (instrumented sites as NWP benchmarking
tools) - European LAM reanalysis (i.e. EURRA Project)
- Planning of observing systems for mesoscale NWP
9SMHI (H-A internal document)
- Increase co-operation in NWP development in
Europe - Aim for a pan-European code frame work and one or
a few European Community models (only 3 models on
the km-scale) - To promote operational co-operation
interoperability, data formats, etc. - To spread and exchange NWP knowledge in Europe
SRNWP Workshops, European Conference, LC reports,
etc - Interaction with other EUMETNET Programmes not
so easy (relation SRNWP Consortia) - Recommendation
- Try to stick to a limited number of tasks and
aims and make them work well
10Aims of the new ProgrammeList of the aims of
each answerSynthesis
11Diffusion of NWP knowledge
- Accepted by all
- Tools
- SRNWP Workshops, EWGLAM Meetings, SRNWP web site,
LC or WG Reports, European NWP Conferences - (To harmonize with the decisions on Governance)
12Enhancement of the scientific cooperation (1)
- Remark It is not always obvious whether a
proposal has to be classified under scientific
cooperation or under operational cooperation - Not always clear distinction between
- Projects that should be financed by the EUMETNET
Council outside the SRNWP Programme (for EUMETNET
they are also called Programmes) and normally
would have a different RM that the one of the
SRNWP Programme. For submission to Council, they
need their own Project Proposal and Project
Decision (can be the same document). - Projects that should be realised inside the SRNWP
Programme, directly financed by the NWS or the
Consortia without interference of the EUMETNET
Council - This remark applies equally to the proposal for
the operational cooperation
13Enhancement of the scientific cooperation (2)
- Accepted by all
- European LAM re-analysis (in coordination with
ECMWF and ECSN/EUROGRID) - Common interfacing between dynamics and physics
in order to facilitate exchange of physical
packages - Cloud Resolving Scale (CRS)
- DA at the CRS
- Physical parameterizations suitable for the CRS
- Comprehensive LAM verification with the satellite
information, particularly METEOSAT 8 (cf. diurnal
cycle)
14Enhancement of the operational cooperation
- Accepted by all, except UGM (no clear
definition). - common data formats for in- and outputs of models
(e.g. exchange of analyses, of post-processing
packages). Special funding proposed by
Meteo-France, also considered as possibility by
H-A. Goal of the theme Interoperability of the
Vision. - interoperability in the coupling between global
models and the SRNWP LAMs - adoption or development of common postprocessing,
verification and intercomparison tools. Goes
further than the Vision. - common plots from all the consortia (already
decided by the forecasters). Quick wins
proposal of the Vision. - harmonisation of quality control of observations
- centralized verification and intercomparison
between the European LAMs (Project Proposal
ready). Chosen as the early project as
suggested by the Vision. - Coupling of the SRNWP models with air chemistry
models
15 Training and Education Activities in NWP
- Proposed by all, but with differences in the
size. Not always very specific. - Creation of a WG on education and training in
Short Range NWP - sharing educational material on the web
- organization of a yearly SRNWP summer school
- Co-ordination with ECMWF training
- Liaise with the national academia on training
tools and events - Guest Researcher Programme stays of one year
or so - Programme of Mid-term mission for new staff and
for exchange of personal between Consortia
16European Multi-model LAM EPS
- Accepted by all
- Development of a large multi-model LAM EPS as the
European contribution to the THORPEX Project
TIGGE-LAM - Fulfil the theme European interactive
multi-model LAM of the Vision
17Synthesis
Priorities
- Enhancement of the operational cooperation
- Diffusion of NWP knowledge
- Enhancement of the scientific cooperation
- European Multi-model LAM EPS
- Training and Education Activities in NWP
18Governance of the new Programme
- Lead Centres
- SRNWP Workshops
- EWGLAM Meetings
- Advisory Committee
- Other Tools
19Lead Centres (1)
- LC have been created in 1999 to
- organise every 2 years a workshop on their topic
- This function has been well fulfilled
- inform regularly the NMS on the state-of-the-art
of their topic - Has been only partially fulfilled (reasons known)
- act as consultant for the NMS in their topic
- This function has never been activated (reasons
known) - Alternatives
- Suppression of the LC with no replacement
- Suppression, but discussions how their
objectives could be reached in an alternative
manner - No suppression, but take measures in order that
LC can fulfil their 3 duties (financial support) - Replacement of the LC by Working Groups teams of
scientists from all Consortia working in specific
areas (cf. COSMO)
20Lead Centres (2)
- If LC are retained or if WG are created,
- how many?
- for which topics?
- Today we have 7 LCs
- High resolution data assimilation
- Non-hydrostatic modelling
- Numerical techniques
- Statistical and dynamical adaptation of model
results - High resolution verification
- Soil and surface processes and assimilation of
surface variables - Short-range EPS
21SRNWP Workshops
- Today a workshop every 2 years for each of our 7
topics - Alternatives for the new SRNWP Programme
- SRNWP Workshops are maintained (all minus one)
- LC are maintained or replaced by WG
- Each LC (respective WG) organises the workshops
on its theme - LC are suppressed and not replaced by WG
- Decision on workshops (time and topic) by the
advisory committee - Do we keep the two year rule?
- SRNWP Workshops are suppressed (one opinion)
- In order to reduce the number of meetings, LC
Workshops should be replaced by one annual
Inter-consortia Conference open to Academy (cf.
idea European Conference on NWP)
22EWGLAM Meetings
- Have to be maintained annually following the
Ljubljana format (all agreed) - Following the Vision recommendation Develop
better working relations with Academia, the PM
suggested they alternate every two years with
European NWP Conferences (similar to the AMS
NWP Conferences) - Two positive reactions to this idea
- A suggestion Consider EMS
- PM shall contact the President of the EMS for a
first exchange of opinion of this topic
23SRNWP Advisory Committee
- All agreed that for an enlarged Programme with
projects and more activities an advisory body is
necessary - Form of the AC
- Each NWS represented
- The NWS finance the Programme
- Large ? less efficient
- Participation centred over the Consortia
- Small ? Efficient
- 2 stages daily management group (small, many
contacts with PM) and AC with all NWS represented - ok for a Consortium. Unnecessary complicated for
SNWP
24Programme Manager and Programme Length
- All agreed for a full time PM with full
reimbursement of his salary and expenses to the
Responsible Member (about 90000 a year) - Duration of the Programme presently 4 years
- Next Programme
- 3, 4, 5, years? or more?